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"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth." As the noted Humanist and Observer of All Things once said. How would Hyperfits react?
1 posted on 07/21/2019 7:04:19 AM PDT by Macoozie
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This shouldn’t be allowed at all.


2 posted on 07/21/2019 7:06:47 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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ANYONE with recent experience in the US military will understand WHAT is happening in the photo below:

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"Fit to fight, any day and through the night..?" Maybe after a year on the treadmill.

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Don't miss the supplementary white column at extreme right, to the right of the amber panel below.

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VIDEOS:

woman captain limping on march, hunched over

Brit firefighter can't knock down door

female soldier easily bested in boxing by marine

3 posted on 07/21/2019 7:07:36 AM PDT by gaijin
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Women, however, have increasingly made it through the nine-week Ranger course, and the numbers of those trying out for other special operations jobs is slowly inching up.

As the standards (at least for women) slowly inch down ...

4 posted on 07/21/2019 7:08:28 AM PDT by IronJack
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This is what happens when SJWs are allowed into positions of authority and, in denial of all biological reality, force square pegs into round holes. As a result, the US military will be unable to perform its primary directive, it raison d'etre.
6 posted on 07/21/2019 7:14:48 AM PDT by bkopto
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Reaction? I’ve always heard that Special Ops, when raiding a hideout of mixed gender armed opponents, are told to “kill the women first” because they tend to react with little or no hesitation compared to their male comrades. Having been married for 30 plus years I’d tend to think that story has some basis in fact. Assuming all women are tender, pearl clutching flowers can get you gutted.


8 posted on 07/21/2019 7:16:26 AM PDT by katana
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So a few women train hard to pass a test like you would expect of a triathlete. Soon after all this training for one event, are they as prepared as men for such duty? I would think not.


10 posted on 07/21/2019 7:18:47 AM PDT by boycott
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“Women, however, have increasingly made it through the nine-week Ranger course”

They changed the rules for them and hid the records.


12 posted on 07/21/2019 7:19:42 AM PDT by dljordan
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...what can possibly go wrong?


16 posted on 07/21/2019 7:25:50 AM PDT by exPBRrat (.)
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Has any woman ever made it through BUDS?


18 posted on 07/21/2019 7:28:54 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Chivalry is not dead. It is a warriors code and only practiced by warriors.)
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Aren’t there stories of them changing the standards and men helping out/cutting the women slack? That isn’t going to fly in battle.


23 posted on 07/21/2019 7:43:28 AM PDT by Stravinsky
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I actually suspect that the new Army Combat Fit Test (ACFT) is, in reality, a passive-aggressive means of getting women out of the Army.

There are three standards for passing: light duty (such as admin duties), medium duty (for those whose job requires some heavy lifting, such as mechanics or regular infantry (iirc)), and heavy duty for special forces types.

The “light duty” test begins with a dead lift starting at 140 pounds (the weight at the highest test difficulty is 300) at the highest difficulty level. Already, I see difficulty ahead: I have no confidence that I can lift more than my own weight. This event must be repeated three times. Another event involves dragging a 90 pound sled for 50 yards, then running sideways for 50 yards, then running the 50 yards while carrying two 40 pound kettlebells, then sprinting the 50 yards twice.

There are 6 events total, all very difficult. The ACFT finishes with a 2 mile fast run. There are no adjustments in standards for gender or age. So far, the JAG rejected the test because there were no alternate events for people with certain limitations. The video to introduce the ACFT only showed a female participating in the dead lift event, where she was clearly struggling while her male counterparts seemed to do the event fairly easily.

The ACFT is being conducted Army wide in October on an introductory (and non graded) basis. In October 2020, it becomes the official fitness test. Given its difficulty, I can foresee many injuries from the test itself.

Several years ago, there was a plan to introduce pull ups to the APFT; this never happened. I wonder if the ACFT will be scrapped when almost no females or middle aged people pass during the trial runs in October 2019 and April 2020.

As I said above, I suspect this new fitness standard is a passive aggressive way of getting women out of the Army. If this is the case, it is almost certainly a reaction to putting women into situations like special forces schools where they are not held to the same high standards expected of men (and which are too difficult for many men to pass). Women can certainly contribute to the Army mission. But, the current gender confusion fad notwithstanding, we are not men and cannot physically perform like men.

It will be interesting to see how the ACFT plays out.


26 posted on 07/21/2019 7:53:23 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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In a related issue, Mike Pence spoke about the next moon mission having both men and women, as opposed to the best candidates available.

We're about to witness the first deaths on the moon due to affirmative action.

28 posted on 07/21/2019 7:59:30 AM PDT by 10mm
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My wife has two nieces in their early 50’s, who played soccer and volley ball in high school and for college teams.

They are in still in great shape. They and their daughters and nieces get their butts beat at every family reunion by their male sons, nephews and cousins in volleyball and soccer.

We have a grand daughter, who has been competitive dancing since she was 3 and is on a major college dance team. She lettered in soccer in high school and can run a mile in 5 minutes easily.

Her younger brother, who is the same height and weight wrestled for 3 years in high school. He can pin her with one arm in about a minute. Even when he gets down on the mat on both knees and again using only one arm, she cannot hold him down. He reverses in secs and has her pinned.

None of these women, who are in great shape can chin themselves more than a couple of times. None of them can climb up a rope that is just suspended from the roof.


29 posted on 07/21/2019 8:03:04 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Demographics will determine, who wins control of America.)
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They carry 40lb packs on their road trials, not the 70lb packs of their male counterparts.

Other accommodations have been made.

But do not think they are not very, very fit women.


37 posted on 07/21/2019 9:11:45 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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Uh huh. Sure.


38 posted on 07/21/2019 9:13:50 AM PDT by anton
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A general gets another star by doing the bidding of his civilian masters (feminists in Congress, for example) who order him/her to “make it happen”, and the grunts pay for that star in reduced readiness, morale and combat effectiveness...

All the above have another price, and that is blood when the real war starts and these PC poseurs deploy...


39 posted on 07/21/2019 9:19:13 AM PDT by elteemike (Light travels faster than sound...That's why so many people appear bright until you hear them speak)
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Women, however, have increasingly made it through the nine-week Ranger course with their score cards hidden and only after many tries with the last tries having lower standards.

Hyperfit women will be just as much a burden on the men as the sort of fit. Being hyperfit - whatever that actually means - does not increase their upper body strength, but is does vastly increase their military PC score, making them more attractive to the perfumed princes and princesses that run the Pentagon and the DOD.


41 posted on 07/21/2019 10:00:40 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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so a Hyperfit girl can do what a standard issue guy can do, wonderful
42 posted on 07/21/2019 10:23:56 AM PDT by Chode (Send bachelors, and come heavily armed!)
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How do hyperfit women compare to the top 1% or top 5% of men? And if you do find the rare woman who can go through Army Ranger school with no modifications, what would her presence do to morale and cohesion?

The purpose of the military is to win and deter wars (break things, kill people.)

Secondary purpose: social unity through shared service, risk, and discipline. A good reason to integrate by race and class. Men and women have already figured out social interactions.

Tertiary purpose: make sure proportionate numbers of women, trans, minorities and the politically astute get to hop on the promotion track and retire with a general’s pension.


46 posted on 07/21/2019 2:12:26 PM PDT by heartwood (Someone has to play devil's advocate.)
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This is so totally wrong.

From start to finish.


50 posted on 07/21/2019 2:25:02 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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