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How Accurate Are Today’s Rifles?
American Hunter ^ | 7/5/19 | Bryce M. Towsley

Posted on 07/17/2019 11:52:44 PM PDT by LibWhacker

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1 posted on 07/17/2019 11:52:44 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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The rifle barrels that are now made today via computer driven machines are of extreme quality at a fraction of the cost 50 years ago, I am showing my age.

Given these great barrels today the accuracy of long distance shots is driven by the skill of the shooter and the shooter knowing the proper loads and bullets for which he is attempting these shots.

Odd story about some great ammo. We made some of the finest ammo we could to most exact standards for my friends father in law. We also tried to sight it in with his rifle. It was throwing a pattern about a foot at 100 yards. This was totally weird. I then took my rifle with the same ammo. I made shots with 1/2 inch groups. The ammo was great. My .270 had a two inch longer barrel and a different twist rate.

We then took the same ammo with a different powder load that slowed down the velocity by only 200 feet per second. The former rifle then achieved precise groupings.


2 posted on 07/18/2019 12:24:56 AM PDT by cpdiii ( canecutter, deckhand, roughneck, geologist, pilot, pharmacist THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR)
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Barrel length, twist rate, and profile, along with powder choice and powder weight all impact the vibration harmonics of the barrel and therefore the accuracy of the shot. All of this is in addition to the mechanical precision of the bore.


3 posted on 07/18/2019 3:06:27 AM PDT by Pecos (My rights as an individual are not subject to a public vote.)
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My nephew's father-in-law has become addicted to competitive shooting. Fortunately for him, he's learning fast since he's being mentored by two of the best shooters in the country at his gun club in northern Michigan......

It was fascinating talking to him about how scientific that sport has become and the equipment and powder loads required.

4 posted on 07/18/2019 3:34:10 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (I'm in the cleaning business.......I launder money)
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Tika T3 with hand loads. Center was my fouling shots. Four corners are load workups. I had red dot stickers over these holes I was aiming at.

I settled on the R3 for my load.

5 posted on 07/18/2019 5:04:34 AM PDT by Comment Not Approved (When bureaucrats outlaw hunting, outlaws will hunt bureaucrats.)
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And in that arena, the top competitors even have to be aware of the temperature of the rounds they haven’t yet shot. In engineering terms, precision is all about converting variables into constants. You may be interested in looking up a fellow named “Dutch” Schoultz, who achieves some amazing results with muzzle loaders.


6 posted on 07/18/2019 5:48:14 AM PDT by Pecos (My rights as an individual are not subject to a public vote.)
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My Savage 6.5 Creedmore out of the box with Hornaday 140 grain bullets managed 3 shots at 100 yards within 1.5” I suspect it was due to the first shot being my friend and the other two me.
Currently waiting on Fed Ex to deliver, this morning, my Leupold VX-5HD 3-15x56 firedot duplex reticle. Would be shooting it today but needed signature.

I like the Creedmore over .308 now. Seems more accurate. I loaded 130gr bullets the other day versus 140 gr Hornaday we shall see how they perform. The bible (Nosler) says that’s the more accurate round.


7 posted on 07/18/2019 6:03:56 AM PDT by TermLimits4All (Immigration? Yep I support it, LEGAL IMMIGRATION DONE THE RIGHT WAY! Walls save lives.)
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I’d like to leave a vote for the SWEDE-—6.5 x 55..inexpensive,never cranky ....


8 posted on 07/18/2019 6:08:10 AM PDT by litehaus (A memory toooo long.............)
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And in that arena, the top competitors even have to be aware of the temperature of the rounds

I found that very interesting. He told me he drives to matches with a small trailer with reloading equipment where he can customize the loads depending on the weather conditions and the target results of the prior shots he made.

Apparently these guys keep extensive notebooks on everything........

9 posted on 07/18/2019 10:44:11 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (I'm in the cleaning business.......I launder money)
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The only thing I see from the pics is he needs to study up on judging deer, a 120 whitetail and a crawdad muley, both should still be walking around.


10 posted on 07/18/2019 11:06:50 AM PDT by nobamanomore
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he only thing I see from the pics is he needs to study up on judging deer, a 120 whitetail and a crawdad muley, both should still be walking around.

Just curious, which picture in the article do you claim to be a white tail and how is it described in the article?

As for the "crawdad muley", which picture is that?

I'll trust the author's knowledge of rifles and game more than yours............

Sorry, but you haven't convinced me otherwise.

11 posted on 07/18/2019 1:27:14 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (I'm in the cleaning business.......I launder money)
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The top one from Oklahoma is a whitetail, I have to assume you don’t know what a crawdad muley is, but it’s an immature buck where the forks look like crawfish claws rather than having deep points. Look at it and you’ll see what I mean. As far as he being some sort of expert I’m in my living room with 9 mounts from three different countries and two continents. He doesn’t describe the deer at all, but they are too small to shoot in my opinion, unless you just want something to die.


12 posted on 07/18/2019 2:49:57 PM PDT by nobamanomore
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That’s what I’m talkin about...Is that 308 or CM? Which T3?


13 posted on 07/18/2019 2:58:48 PM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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I'm sure you are as knowledgeable about deer as you claim to be but your assessment of the deer is based on photos.

I'll take this writer's claim about the deer species over yours since you weren't there to personally observe them.......sorry.

14 posted on 07/18/2019 2:59:14 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (I'm in the cleaning business.......I launder money)
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T3 Superlite in Rem 7mm Mag. Berger VLD 168gr sitting on Retumbo. Leupold CDS glass.


15 posted on 07/18/2019 4:36:23 PM PDT by Comment Not Approved (When bureaucrats outlaw hunting, outlaws will hunt bureaucrats.)
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How to shoot a trophy?

Don’t shoot the little ones?


16 posted on 07/22/2019 3:16:09 AM PDT by urbanpovertylawcenter (the law and poverty collide in an urban setting and sparks fly)
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It’s been said to work!


17 posted on 07/22/2019 4:38:25 AM PDT by nobamanomore
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I have more than one rifle and two pistols that are very picky(accuracy) about what ammo they are fed.


18 posted on 07/22/2019 4:47:21 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Twitter, Facebook and New York City do not represent the real world.)
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I have more than one rifle and two pistols that are very picky(accuracy) about what ammo they are fed.


19 posted on 07/22/2019 4:47:22 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Twitter, Facebook and New York City do not represent the real world.)
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As far as old school guns, my Schmidt Rubin k-31 seems to shoot about as good a groups as any gun I own. Granted I am not any type of skilled or competition shooter but that’s straight pull Swiss rifle sure is a sweet tool.


20 posted on 07/22/2019 4:49:03 AM PDT by BOBWADE (RINOs suck)
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