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My Proposal for Teacher School Rotation
Brian Griffin | 07/01/2019 | Brian Griffin

Posted on 07/01/2019 12:28:48 PM PDT by Brian Griffin

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To: Brian Griffin

Your idea is horrible and won’t work. NYC already has a rotating pool of teachers, most of whom lost their regular positions when their school closed. The students view them as “subs” and will not accord them any respect or do any work for them. It is a hardship on the teachers to have to learn the cultures of different schools. The rotating teachers don’t get perks like parking stickers, which obligates them to park far from the school. They don’t get a place to put their stuff. They can’t put their own touch on the classroom, simply using what’s already there. It’s hard on students not to have continuity. And you don’t give teachers any job security in what is a difficult situation, adding greatly to what is already a stressful situation.


21 posted on 07/01/2019 1:52:45 PM PDT by EinNYC
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To: hanamizu

I think a bigger reason it works in Japan and would not here is the culture.


22 posted on 07/01/2019 1:53:35 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Brian Griffin

Key and Peele - Substitute Teacher

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd7FixvoKBw


23 posted on 07/01/2019 1:56:51 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Public schools cannot be reformed. People who actually care about their children have removed them from the public schools already. The rest make up the Socialist Future of the country and grow up to be interchangeable cogs in the Social machine.


24 posted on 07/01/2019 1:57:37 PM PDT by arthurus (z)
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To: arthurus
Public schools cannot be reformed

Exactly, but they can be "repurposed" into private schools, charter schools, etc.

25 posted on 07/01/2019 1:58:56 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Brian Griffin
When this kind of scheme was done as part of federal court desegregation orders, it led to many good teachers retiring or quitting and going into other fields or teaching in private schools. The dismal condition of so many public education systems makes that a chronic problem already. Conscripting public school teachers into bad schools will collapse many struggling school systems.
26 posted on 07/01/2019 2:02:30 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: hanamizu

Also, in the US, it seems that some school systems are run by the CITY, and some by separate school boards. I think Chicago Public Schools are actually run through the mayor’s office (but could be wrong).

My personal feeling is that the mayor’s office should not be concerning itself with the operation of the schools in any way.


27 posted on 07/01/2019 2:03:08 PM PDT by NEMDF
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To: Rockingham

. Conscripting public school teachers into bad schools will collapse many struggling school systems.

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and that is a bad idea??


28 posted on 07/01/2019 2:12:28 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

I think a bigger reason it works in Japan and would not here is the culture.


Of course culture is a big part of it. Japanese teachers are national government employees who go into the calling with the idea that they will be transferred many times in their career. Teachers enjoy a great deal of respect from their students pretty much everywhere which is expected in Japanese culture.

This is a story I’d tell my jr. high colleagues.
My wife and I visited a rural school in Shikoku, Japan. It was a 3-story K-8 school. The day we visited, all of the staff were in the language lab (of course they had one) evaluating a teacher. All of the rest of the classes were unsupervised. We walked through the school, opening doors to find kids doing their work. There was no sudden movement when we opened the door. We went to an art class where 8th graders were wood carving with very sharp tools. There was no blood to be seen. When people say that Jr High kids are nuts because of ‘hormones’, I tell them this story. I’m pretty sure Japanese kids have hormones too, but they are expected to control themselves. Culture.


29 posted on 07/01/2019 2:16:24 PM PDT by hanamizu
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To: hanamizu

Can’t imagine that here even in the most bucolic of American places.


30 posted on 07/01/2019 2:19:09 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: napscoordinator
I never understood this. Really a good teacher could have a book, chalk board, 40 students and be the best teacher in the country.

The elephant in the room is culture and family background. My leftist, blue, NE city spends $23K per year, each, on inner city students, yet half of them never graduate. TPTB could triple that amount and nothing would change. The left has destroyed the black family, and their great lies they promote is are 1) that the Left isn't responsible for it, and 2) somehow America is too cheap and racist to spend more.

31 posted on 07/01/2019 2:20:01 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: Chickensoup

Has any public school system truly collapsed?

Now that I think about it, yes. It generally merges with an adjoining school district - not necessarily better, but with more taxpayers paying into the system it just takes longer to collapse again.

I took the OP as not being literal. If teachers had been bused instead of the students in the 1970’s, we would be having a different conversation today.


32 posted on 07/01/2019 2:30:23 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: Brian Griffin

Ridiculous. Insofar as we have government schools, local districts should be able to hire whomever they want and those who want to work for a particular school district ought to be able to work there however long they are wanted.

Teachers are bad enough as it is, we don’t need some sort of bureaucratically mandated monstrosity chasing more good teachers away.


33 posted on 07/01/2019 4:08:57 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Brian Griffin

There is absolutely no reason at all for taxpayers to be in the student loan (or grant) business. If poor would-be college students are only marginal students, unable to attract private grants, they should pay their way as they go through a community college system, then if appropriate on to a state college for a four-year degree, and then if appropriate beyond that, on to grad school. Taking two classes a semester for three semesters a calendar year, such a student can graduate debt-free with a standard bachelor’s degree in five years and one semester. Less than the six years by which four-year schools now count their graduates as timely.


34 posted on 07/01/2019 4:14:20 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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