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To: Lakeside Granny; All

Man SCOTUS is single-handedly destroying the country, upheld double jeopardy that a person tried by feds can still be tried by state for same crime; upheld VA Democrat maps; ruled public forums (Twitter, Facebook, etc) not bound by 1st Amendment; upheld VA ban on uranium mining.

We should never have let any court be the final arbiter of Constitutionality, big mistake.


1,743 posted on 06/17/2019 10:53:38 AM PDT by Kenny
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To: Kenny

Have they ruled on the Census question yet?

Not looking good if they got all that other stuff wrong.

Finally caught up with the thread, now I’m off to lunch and taking friend to the foot doctor.

Back in a few......


1,746 posted on 06/17/2019 11:05:11 AM PDT by Lakeside Granny
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To: Kenny

The Supreme Court on Monday refused to overturn a longstanding rule that allows for individuals to be charged by states and the federal government for the same offense.
In a 7-2 ruling, the justices affirmed the so-called “dual sovereignty” exception to the Constitution’s double jeopardy clause.
Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Neil Gorsuch, in separate dissents, took issue with the majority’s formula.

The Supreme Court on Monday refused to overturn a longstanding rule that allows individuals to be charged by states and the federal government for the same offense.

In a 7-2 ruling, the justices affirmed the so-called “dual sovereignty” exception to the Constitution’s double jeopardy clause. The opinion was authored by Justice Samuel Alito, who wrote that the rule is “not an exception at all.”

The Fifth Amendment’s double jeopardy clause states that “No person shall [...] be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb.” Alito wrote that because states and the federal government are both sovereign governments, a violation of state and federal law is not the “same offense,” but is instead separate offenses.

Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Neil Gorsuch, in separate dissents, took issue with the majority’s formula.

In her dissent, Ginsburg wrote that under the Constitution, it is the governed, not the governments, who are the ultimate sovereigns.

In his dissent, Gorsuch wrote that a “free society does not allow its government to try the same individual for the same crime until it’s happy with the result.”

Had the court ruled the other way, experts said that President Donald Trump may have gotten a boost to his pardon authority. Presidents may pardon violations of federal laws, but do not have the same power over state laws.


1,756 posted on 06/17/2019 11:39:38 AM PDT by Rusty0604 (2020 four more years!)
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