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To: ealgeone; boatbums

You make no reference to the key reality here, the eternal dimension of the sacrifice, ealgeone.

Do you think “the Lamb who was slain before the foundation of the world” is making the same sacrifice as that of Jesus Christ, the Lamb of God?

Why or why not?


890 posted on 06/07/2019 9:50:51 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Whatever is pure, anything of excellence, and anything praiseworthy—keep thinking about these thing)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
You do not know the Risen Lord Christ. Your pontifications are as hollow as an empty barrel. The Lord Christ does not drazw life from the blood NOW, He is sustained by The Spirit not blood. Your pretend is a fraudulent blasphemy against the Lord Christ.

IF you are as smart as you think you are, look up the particulars of what Kosher means and how it is accomplished and why. ... I suspect your Catholic mind is now echoing the 'yes but' ... your ignorance is profound, and profoundly dangerous for your immortal soul.

891 posted on 06/07/2019 10:14:53 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Do you think “the Lamb who was slain before the foundation of the world” is making the same sacrifice as that of Jesus Christ, the Lamb of God?

The Lamb who was slain is a reference to Jesus Christ...He wasn't slain til 33 AD...Was it known he would be slain??? It was foreordained from the foundation of the World...

God's people in the OT received Manna to eat, to stay alive...For their spiritual redemption their priests offered the blood of animal sacrifices...The blood of Jesus was not an option at that time...But if it had been, why were the priests not aware of it and call down Jesus to handle the atonement which was present??? Why was it available for Catholics after 33 AD but for no one before that???

When Jacob wrestled Jesus, he made no mention of wrestling with someone who is going thru a crucifixion...Why did no one who actually had contact with Jesus back then recognia a lamb who had been slain???

892 posted on 06/07/2019 10:35:42 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: Mrs. Don-o; metmom; aMorePerfectUnion; MHGinTN; boatbums; Mom MD
You make no reference to the key reality here, the eternal dimension of the sacrifice, ealgeone.

I've already addressed that. Once an item is paid for, it's paid for. I don't have to keep showing it to the cashier over and over and over again.

Do you think “the Lamb who was slain before the foundation of the world” is making the same sacrifice as that of Jesus Christ, the Lamb of God?

The Lamb is Christ.

He is not making a sacrifice over and over again.

If we can impress upon you one thing is this:

The sacrifice was made at Calvary.

Hebrews calls it a one time sacrifice.

Jesus's last words were tetelestai...it has been finished.

The implication in the Greek means something that happened in the past has impact going forward. This is for tetelestai.

In the passages we've been quoting from Hebrews, most of the verbs are in the aorist tense. It usually describes an undefined action that normally occurs in the past.

So when Roman Catholics say it's an ongoing sacrifice, this is why I disagree.

The actual sacrifice was done around 33 AD. The impact of the sacrifice is still being felt in 2019 and will continue to be for eternity.

IT. IS. NOT. REPEATED. NOR. REPRESENTED.

This is why the Scriptures say, "do this in REMEMBRANCE of Me".

I'll try to give a more detailed exegesis later this weekend.

893 posted on 06/07/2019 10:55:58 AM PDT by ealgeone
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