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Wine Storage Owner Pleads Guilty to Fraud
wine-searcher ^ | 5/16/19 | W. Blake Gray

Posted on 05/22/2019 12:19:45 PM PDT by LibWhacker

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1 posted on 05/22/2019 12:19:45 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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I remember on one of those real crime TV shows a guy was putting fake labels on inexpensive bottles. Maybe fake bottles too, not sure.

The surprising thing is no one noticed for a long time. Finally some guy did.


2 posted on 05/22/2019 12:23:36 PM PDT by yarddog
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No photo of William “Billy” Holder, just a generic picture of bottles of wine in a rack. Hmm. Anne Arundel county.


3 posted on 05/22/2019 12:24:35 PM PDT by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrat's John Dean])
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To: LibWhacker

We will steal no wine
Before its time


4 posted on 05/22/2019 12:28:26 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: LibWhacker

You don’t get to keep stolen goods. Even if you purchased them in good faith. Ask any Pawn Store owner. Is there more to this story?

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“Laubach also wrote on Wine Berserkers: “The maddening thing is that there is a very prominent store in DC that admitted to me and my brother that he had bought our wines from Mr Holder. His resolution was to sell them back to us at his cost.”


5 posted on 05/22/2019 12:29:04 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with islamic terrorists - they want to die for allah and we want to kill them.)
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To: LibWhacker

Lived in Glen Burnie back in ‘81................Moved to Florida and never looked back.................


6 posted on 05/22/2019 12:29:53 PM PDT by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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To: Steely Tom

Any kin to Eric ‘The Red’ Holder?..................


7 posted on 05/22/2019 12:30:31 PM PDT by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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To: LibWhacker

Mmmm… Baltimore wines...


8 posted on 05/22/2019 12:31:21 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: LibWhacker

If you don’t hold it, you don’t own it.


9 posted on 05/22/2019 12:31:52 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: mylife
Mmmm… Baltimore wines...

"Would you like to sniff the bottle cap?"

10 posted on 05/22/2019 12:32:06 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: LibWhacker

Oh phleese.

Trusting stranger with your booze?

Jail his customers for being a-holes.

And sterilize them, to protect the innocent.


11 posted on 05/22/2019 12:33:48 PM PDT by trotskylvalia (where nose meets the grindstone)
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To: LibWhacker

rich people problems....


12 posted on 05/22/2019 12:34:27 PM PDT by mowowie
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My nephew collects art, his dad (my brother) was an artist, so one day I’m over at his place and he says “hey I got a new acquisition you need to see it” and it was a Jackson Pollock, actually it was a 24-inch square piece of a Jackson Pollock.

How would you know it was really a Jackson Pollock? I didn’t say anything but... I think he might have been ripped off.


13 posted on 05/22/2019 12:34:34 PM PDT by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.)
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It was a piece of used drop cloth.................


14 posted on 05/22/2019 12:36:34 PM PDT by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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If you’re involved in collecting wine and you just can’t seem to find a place to store it, don’t let others take your wine into their own hands....You store it yourself!!!!!


15 posted on 05/22/2019 12:38:07 PM PDT by conservative98
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To: Steely Tom
“No photo of William “Billy” Holder, just a generic picture of bottles of wine in a rack. Hmm. Anne Arundel county.”

That's because he's probably directly related to Eric Holder and is therefore “A Holder's Person!” All “Holder's People" have a special “immunity” from having their pictures posted publicly because of the past “inequities of being slaves.”

16 posted on 05/22/2019 12:38:25 PM PDT by vette6387
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I saw that....the guy was very clever.....made the labels look old. He even cheated one of the Koch brothers who collected wine.

Another wine storage story in California was equally as sad. This guy became a legend.....known as a bon vivant....ate numerous times at a high end sushi resturant with his illicit profits. He put a estaurant out of business by selling their wines.

In another case, he replaced vintage wines with bottles of two-buck Chuck.

When he was found out, he set fire to the storage facility....rivers of fine wines came pouring out.


17 posted on 05/22/2019 12:38:52 PM PDT by Liz ( Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: 2banana; LibWhacker
I believe that if he does not return the wine in Maryland he would be guilty of Possession stolen property.

Possession of Stolen Property Section 7-104(c)

Under Section 7-104(c)(1) it is illegal for a person to

(1) knowingly, or believing property has likely been stolen,

(2) be in possession of stolen property

(3) when the individual:

• Intentionally or knowingly conceals, uses, or abandons the property in such a way that the property owner is deprived of the property, or

• Acts with the intent to deprive the owner of the property, or

• Conceals, uses, or abandons the property in a manner that the individual knows will likely deprive the owner of the property.

18 posted on 05/22/2019 12:42:39 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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To: dfwgator

“twist and sniff”


19 posted on 05/22/2019 12:49:51 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Pontiac

In most cases, no pun intended, I suspect he’d be offered a deal to return the wine in exchange for no prosecution on the stolen property charge. If he has paper showing he bot from the guy who stole the wine, it’s stolen property whether he knows it or not, and is subject to confiscation. But now that he knows it’s stolen...he had better come clean as they say in the old Cagney movies. He’s out the money he spent on buying it; that’s probably the best outcome; maybe he can recover some insurance money. He’s damn lucky he didn’t buy interstate, he could find himself among some very non-understanding authorities.


20 posted on 05/22/2019 12:50:42 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Apoplectic is where we want them)
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