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To: bagster
Very fine Oracle posting, Mr. bagman.

I want to raise an issue for the Oracle and the Q thread that I think is becoming more prominent. Here is an excerpt from your recent Oracle posting, taken from the UK Telegraph:
The heads of MI5 and MI6 and one of Mrs May’s most trusted security advisers were told about former British intelligence officer Christopher Steele’s memos on the Trump campaign in the weeks after his November 2016 election victory.

I think the time has come - and the evidence is mounting - that we should question whether Christopher Steele is either an ex-Brit intel officer or a retired intel operative.

It is a classic ploy of sovereign governments, when they wish to run a covert operation but wish to maintain 'plausible deniability' of official involvement, to run a rogue operation or use a 'rogue operative' - sort of a 'false flag'. Increasingly this Brit involvement in Spygate is looking to be such a bumbling effort.

Can we believe that Christopher Steele recruited the Australian High Commissioner to the UK, Alexander Downer, to help entrap George Papadopoulos? Did he manage to persuade Italian DIS intel agency to loan him Joseph Mifsud? {The Mueller Report identifies Mifsud as 'a London-based professor who had connections to Russia and traveled to Moscow in April 2016', implying that he was a Russian asset. Murky support like this for the otherwise unmentioned Steele Dossier may be the undoing of the Mueller Report.}

{Who was Mifsud's controller in this operation? Steele? Stefan Halper? George Papadopoulos seems to believe it was FBI Rome agent, Michael Gaeta.}

Could Christopher Steele have gotten UK GCHQ involved? How did Steele attract so much attention from the US Dept State, the DoJ and FBI, the American intel community? Normally a 'rogue' agent would be treated in official circles as if they had the Black Plague.

Is the story of Steele being fixated with hatred for Donald Trump just part of the cover story? Again, how did he attract so much official attention? Do we ever learn what the source of Steele's fixation with DJT might be?

To the point: why did the head of GCHQ, Robert Hannigan, resign following the Trump election? Could rogue operative Christopher Steele have managed to involve the ex-chief of MI6, Richard Dearlove, directly in the ensuing fray? With all these major public figures becoming involved, how does previously unknown ex-intel officer Christopher Steele emerge to such a prominent exposure; why did anyone take his 'dossier' seriously?

Now Brit PM Teresa May is resigning as the Spygate story begins to split open. Ostensibly she is resigning due to failure to secure a Brexit final outcome for the UK. Likely true, but is connection to the U.S. Spygate scandal also a motivation? She wishes to remain in office long enough to speak directly with President Donald Trump during his upcoming visit to the UK. Is there a more hidden reason?

Perhaps much of this will become more clear over the coming months. Certainly, there is much cause to question the official status of 'ex-spy' Christopher Steele in this complex multi-national counter-intelligence operation.

1,369 posted on 05/25/2019 8:22:47 AM PDT by Bob Ireland (The Democrat Party is a criminal enterprise)
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To: Bob Ireland

I believe Steele was Hillary’s gopher, that’s how he was able to get inside and have all these players meet with him


1,410 posted on 05/25/2019 10:32:15 AM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: Bob Ireland

++++!

That there was some heavy liftin’, Bob..


1,516 posted on 05/25/2019 3:11:02 PM PDT by bitt (I donate all my chips to erecting electric bleachers in Gitmo!)
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To: Bob Ireland
It is a classic ploy of sovereign governments, when they wish to run a covert operation but wish to maintain 'plausible deniability' of official involvement, to run a rogue operation or use a 'rogue operative' - sort of a 'false flag'. Increasingly this Brit involvement in Spygate is looking to be such a bumbling effort.

I think you're onto something, Bobby my boy.

We tend to think that the intel agencies are some type of independent actor with their own plans and methods.

Haven't we discovered that our "intel" was acting at the behest of others? Sort of an the intelligence (CIA) and enforcement (FBI) arms of higher ups? And by higher ups I not only mean the Obama "administration", including Obama himself, but the real puppet masters that control governments ultimately.

What you describe with Steele (and Mifsud) is the derp leadership seeking to "cordon off" the damage and put it all on people like Brennan, that UK intelligence guy that resigned, and other operatives, agents, and spies.

They will gladly let those type go down and take the wrap if they are allowed to walk away.

Anyway, I see it like that. The "Steele" things, as you describe so well, was nothing more than the UK Government (May and others) working against the American President, County, and its people. An act of war in my book, though nobody will ever call it that.

I think May's resignation was a combination of Brexit and her getting busted for that act of war.

This derp war is all-encompassing and everything is connected. Brexit is a HUGE part of it. The EU was a consolidation of derp power on the road to ultimate derp control (One World Derp Government)

In summation. Lets stop thinking small. Brennan, Comey, Clapper, Steele, Halper, Mifsud, and all the other "players" are errand boys. They got to get got, but they are not the main problemo.

#BigFish

#Hydra

#KAOS


1,535 posted on 05/25/2019 4:09:48 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: Bob Ireland
Steele being fixated with hatred for Donald Trump

There are a lot of them, like Lisa Page and Peter Stroke. All of them should be charged with TDR hate crimes.

1,633 posted on 05/25/2019 7:11:58 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER ( "The Owl" eats RATs for breakfast!)
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