Posted on 05/16/2019 5:58:11 AM PDT by DFG
“...crashed because (the pilot had never actually flow the plane...”. Wow!
It’s called porpoising. Pilot was behind on his reactions.
Yep, this is pretty fundamental.
Whether you land with A/P or not, you MUST know your speeds - critically final approach speed and stall speed. For us smaller guys, you want to get to ideally get to stall speed inches over the runway. For the big guys, you land with power with a steady angle of attack, and at final approach speed. That speed ensures you land on the main wheels, not the nosewheel.
And a bounce is recoverable in the small pistons - add a small bit of power, and control your bounce. With a jet, you can’t spool up with short bursts, as in a piston, so you MUST not land on the nosewheel.
My pilot buddy says a good landing is when you can use the plane again. I’m thinking this does not qualify.
The incompetent, poorly trained pilot killed his passengers.
Well, HE came in hot!
Obviously, he missed the arresting gear.
No Tailhook club for you!
What??? The best landings I have made have been smooth and NEVER approached stall speed. I have been in numerous landing situations, from carrier traps to text-book landings, even a Class C recovery. Not once did we ever come close to stall.
[[[Huh?? Have they ever actually landed an Airplane before??]]]
“Nope, never had a lesson”.
Signed, Harry Callahan
A “stalled” plane is a landed plane... and a plane well above stall is a bouncing plane. YMMV, but I find landing slow - a few knots above stall, often with stall horn, gets me down with no bounce. My home field is a relatively short runway too.
Caveat: Will add a few knots or subtract a flap notch for gusts.
As to this Aeroflot pilot 1400 hours and never made a manual landing. Even if that's true I can't imagine he didn't know the correct airspeed and rate of decent to touch down. The article says the plane is built for a 3.6G landing but this was 5.5G or even more. Someone help me out here 3.6G is probably a maximum and that sounds pretty uncomfortable. So to say this guy came in hot is an understatement.
Nope. We were trained that we had to be able to takeoff immediately upon landing. Conditions on the airfield could change and being back in the air could very well be the safest place.
The approach/landing speed in the Prowler gave us 10-20 knots above stall.
Hard to tell but I don’t see flaps fully extended.
Nope. As an aviator you always have to consider alternatives, even when landing. Stall leaves you no options.
As to this Aeroflot pilot 1400 hours and never made a manual landing. Even if that's true I can't imagine he didn't know the correct airspeed and rate of decent to touch down.
He had to, and the A/C is dual pilot so his co-pilot was reading it off to him (if they followed procedures). He did was is called "porpoising" where he got into a situation where he was constantly inputting conflicting control commands into the situation and would pull back the stick when he bounced then point the nose to the deck. Truly poor airmanship.
I try to stall out over the numbers but then again the small planes are so light the are almost impossible to get to hold onto the ground.
piston or jet?
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