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To: thoughtomator
And was the principle protagonists ( and antagonists) Of episode 4 made aware of this invention?

Here’s one for you. Indiana Jones was irrelevant to what happened in Raiders of the Lost Arc. As told by Amy in Big Bang theory.

She then confesses her appreciation of the film, aside from the “glaring story problem” that “Indiana Jones plays no role in the outcome of the story. If he weren't in the film, it would turn out exactly the same... If he weren't in the movie, the Nazis would still have found the Arks, taken it to the island, opened it up, and all died, just like they did.”

33 posted on 05/08/2019 5:08:31 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Vaquero

> And was the principle protagonists ( and antagonists) Of episode 4 made aware of this invention?

If it were possible at all in the story world, the story world would have a completely different shape to it. No amount of suspension of disbelief can explain why, if hyperspeed weaponization is possible at all, that the eons of hyperdrive spacefarers prior had never tried it. It’s so stupid it’s absolutely impossible to suspend disbelief.


34 posted on 05/08/2019 5:11:40 AM PDT by thoughtomator (The Clinton Coup attempt was a worse attack on the USA than was 9/11)
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To: Vaquero
Here’s one for you. Indiana Jones was irrelevant to what happened in Raiders of the Lost Arc.

Amy missed the fact that Indy found the Arc in the first place. Right where the Nazi's missed it.

36 posted on 05/08/2019 5:20:50 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: Vaquero

> Indiana Jones was irrelevant to what happened in Raiders of the Lost Arc.

The trope subversion in this case was part of what made the film such a standout production. He doesn’t have to be relevant to how the larger story unfolds; he just has to be at the locations where the story is told. The story itself is compelling enough on its own without needing the protagonist to affect it; and that the protagonist can’t affect it, for all his efforts, builds towards the sense of divine power and inevitability that is personified (objectified) by the Ark itself. So rather than a conflict or a reason not to suspend disbelief, this use of the protagonist as basically a roving camera to the story locations works quite coherently with the overall theme of the movie.

Contrast to introducing hyperdrive weapons to SW. All of a sudden, everything else that has happened in the entire series is subject to the question of why hyperdrive weapons aren’t being utilized, and why their existence hasn’t shaped the battlefield.


43 posted on 05/08/2019 6:09:11 AM PDT by thoughtomator (The Clinton Coup attempt was a worse attack on the USA than was 9/11)
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To: Vaquero

Amy was wrong also. If Jones hadn’t blown up the plane, the ark would have gone to Germany, not, to an island in the Aegean Sea.

Hitler might have died had Jones not stolen the ark.

The Sub ride to the island was AFTER the fact of Jones intervention.

Take that Amy Farrah Fowler


44 posted on 05/08/2019 6:20:41 AM PDT by Conan the Librarian (The Best in Life is to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and the Dewey Decimal System)
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