UFOs are supernatural and can even be summoned (search Dr. Steven Greer), though they can apparently seem very physical. An auntie of mine reports she saw, a number of years ago, a full on 1950s style flying saucer close up and personal. Uncle saw it too, but refused to speak of it when asked (he had sworn auntie to secrecy and had apparently been scared witless by the event).
But I’m not convinced cell cameras are all that great. I can’t take a picture of even the moon. Just looks like a blur.
Best comment on the subject I have seen. Ever.
Concise, incisive, frightening in its implications.
BTW, are your aunt and uncle still living?