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Some Thoughts on the Mueller Investigation [Vanity]
[self] | April 19, 2019 | [self]

Posted on 04/19/2019 5:29:05 PM PDT by BobL

13:59 4/19/2019

Some Thoughts on the Mueller Investigation [Vanity]

Now that the report is out, some of the stuff that didn't make sense at the time is starting to make sense, at least to myself. Here are a few things that came to mind:

1. Why did the investigation drag on for well over a year after Muller's people had concluded that Trump didn't collude with Russia? Answer: As long as they were 'investigating' or at least claimed to be doing such, there was no way that Trump could 'prove' that he didn't collude with Russia - they wanted that doubt to carry through to 2020. In the mean time, with KGB-type powers, they were investigating everything and everyone around Trump, with the purpose of sending a message to people who are inclined to support Trump - which is that you do so at your own risk, to both your bank account and even your freedom. They were having a blast, to the point of the famous CNN raid. On top of that, Mueller's people had the evidence of the clearly illegal stuff the FBI did to Trump, some of it was Rosenstein's fingerprints on it - so Rosenstein figures that the only way to keep himself out of jail was to let the investigation continue, hopefully with Trump losing the 2020 election, and then all would be forgotten with the incoming Hillary Administration.

2. Why did Adam Shiff flat-out continue to lie regarding having absolute proof of collusion, when his lie would eventually come out? Answer: The intent was the same as the above, which was to continue supplying the country with doubt about Trump through 2020, and then no one would ever care either way if he were lying. The position that Mr. Shiff had was very useful to him - he could falsely claim that he had evidence of collusion, but at the same time say that he couldn't not disclose said evidence because it was a government secret, which very people, himself included, had access to. Mr. Nunes had access to the same non-information, and so was clueless as to what the hell Shiff was talking about - but when the two butted heads, obviously Shiff wins in the media. This reminds me of Harry Reid claiming that Romney had not paid any taxes in 10 years. Most likely Reid had no clue either way, but he still made the claim. When he as asked about it after the election, he famously said - "Romney didn't win, did he?". That's where Shiff was hoping to go.

On a side note, I'm hard-pressed to think of a more egregious example of flat-out political lying in my lifetime. It's on the order of Bill Clinton saying that he never had sex with that woman - except this is worse, because Shiff was hiding behind his security clearance to make the claims and with those claims accusing Trump of treason. And this well-beyond anything I can remember regarding Obama or the Bushes - sure they all broke promises, but nothing matches this level, at least that I can think of.

3. So what did happen regarding the long-term plan of Mueller's team, and why did it take so long? Answer: Now that we know that Trump knew they had nothing on him, since there was nothing to have, it becomes more clear as to why Trump wasn't in a huge hurry to end the investigation, as that would have left a cloud over his head. He obviously wanted it ended, and had every right to want it ended, as there wasn't anything to find. The problem was that he had no easy way to get it closed down until right after the 2018 election, when he finally had enough Senators to outvote the Drama Queens in that body, in this case most notably Flake [and losing the Alabama seat sure as hell didn't help things]. Had Trump fired Sessions or had Sessions resigned, the Senate would have been deadlocked with Rosenstein now running both the investigation and the rest of the Justice Department...and no, Trump would have been facing impeachment if he fired Rosenstein. He was trapped.

What must have happened next, after Barr took over, but I still haven't seen anything written on it was the following - Barr asks Rosenstein what evidence of collusion does Mueller have, Rosenstein says none, Barr asks Rosenstein why the investigation hasn't ended, Rosenstein obviously cannot tell the truth [which is that he, Rosenstein, is being protected from prosecution by that same investigation] and instead shrugs his arms, at that point, Barr gives Mueller 30 days to write up a final report...and that's it.

4. Is the media biased, and how does it relate to this? Answer: Obviously, at least to us, here. But nearly half the country still thinks that the media is fair. It's hard to argue back, but here we've been handed a great opportunity. In this case, the media was telling us, non-stop, that there was collusion, based on their sources [most being unnamed, but also Mr. Shiff]...and taking them at their word that they really did have sources, how are they responding to having been lied to, non-stop, by these same sources? They don't seem bothered, not one bit, by having spent 3 years telling the American public non-stop lies. One would think that if they had any anger, it would be directed at their sources...unless they knew the entire time that they were lying to the country. That's all one can conclude, and I challenge anyone to conclude anything else.

5. Why did Barr say that Trump was spied on? Answer: Because Trump was spied on, that simple. But let's go through this a bit more. First, the background - Barr was testifying before the Commerce-Justice-Science Subcommittee of the US Senate, he was under oath, something that was almost never the case with Trump accusers [and often they were unnamed]. If Barr knew that Trump was spied on, but then denied it under oath, he risks going to jail for a long time. Likewise if Barr had claimed under oath that Trump was spied on, but Trump was not spied on, same outcome, long jail time due to lying to Congress. Barr only had one option in that situation - tell the truth, which he did.

Now compare that to the situations of the people who are denying that Trump was spied on - they are either saying that on news shows, or as unnamed sources - either way, they're not risking serious jail time if they lie. But Barr was at risk - he was cornered - he had to tell the truth...and so he did.


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To: BobL
[...] he could falsely claim that he had evidence of collusion, but at the same time say that he couldn't not disclose said evidence because it was a government secret [...]

There, fixed it fur yuh!

Regards,

21 posted on 04/20/2019 3:05:36 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: alexander_busek

Thanks!


22 posted on 04/20/2019 4:39:52 AM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: BobL

I don’t know much about section 2 of the report. I’m wondering if the scope of the SC presentment from Rosenstein to Muller is discussed or has it still not been seen by anyone?


23 posted on 04/20/2019 5:24:52 PM PDT by V V Camp Enari 67-68 (Viet Vet)
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