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The Russia Hoax was originally aimed at Flynn, not Trump.
ChicagoBoyz ^ | April 4, 2019 | Michael Kennedy

Posted on 04/10/2019 4:32:05 AM PDT by billorites

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To: billorites

It was McCabe who said, I believe, “F- Flynn, and then we f- Trump.” Flynn was just a means of getting to Trump and they intended to take out two enemies.


21 posted on 04/10/2019 5:29:45 AM PDT by browniexyz
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To: rbg81

As if a scam like this can have only one target.

The US government attempted to undermine a US presidential election, and when that failed, the US government attempted to depose the president with a popular uprising based on government-planted false accusation.

And no law or regulation can prevent a recurrance.


22 posted on 04/10/2019 5:32:06 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: billorites

Trump was the target of the shelling; but I GUARANTEE that Flynn was definitely destined to be a part of the “collateral damage” of that shelling!


23 posted on 04/10/2019 5:42:39 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (Diversity is tolerance; diverse points of views will not be tolerated!)
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To: All
Just unbelievable what they resorted to, in order to "get Trump." Their hatred knew no bounds. Even more eye-popping:
they were so sure of themselves, so fixated on hating Trump...... when all else failed, and Trump was elected,
they actually thought they could stop his inauguration.

Strzok told his FBI colleague and paramour Lisa Page not to worry about Trump being elected because “We’ll stop it.”

The rot started at the very top.......Obama basked in the power of the presidency....and its financial rewards.
Hillary was supposed to give him a third term.

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JOE DIGENOVA: brazen plot against Trump by FBI/DOJ w/ complicit media (bigtime cover for Obama)

FR POSTED The NYT's blatant attempt to cover-up Obama's plot to frame Trump was such that even though there was no evidence to support allegations that Pres Trump was “knowingly” or “unwittingly” working for Russia, the decision to investigate Trump was done "in good faith."

The rotting of the FBI hierarchy began with Steele's “unsubstantiated dossier,” financed by the Clinton campaign, then used to get a FISA warrant to wiretap Trump's campaign.

Those in the criminal justice process for decades had never before seen L/E concerned about anything unsubstantiated.

As "proof," the NYT whined that Trump “refused to criticize Russia.”
<><> Where was the FBI or DOJ angst in 2012 when Obama on an open mic requested Medvedev tell Putin that after the election, he would have “more flexibility” to deal with stuff like missile defense?
<><> Where was the angst when Sec of State Hillary attempted a Russian reset?
<><> Was anyone in L/E tossing his cookies in 2010 when Bill Clinton, took $500,000 from a Russian entity comprised of former Russian intelligence operatives?
<><>Or when the Obama admin allowed corrupt Russian-controlled companies to purchase Uranium One, thereby acquiring 20% of the US uranium supply.

NYT says firing Comey was “obstruction of justice."
<><> So if firing Comey obstructed justice, why wasn’t Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein, who recommended the firing, also placed under investigation?

The bizarre January 20, 2017 email Susan Rice wrote “to herself” purporting to document a January 5, 2017 meeting with the Obama crew gives a clue. The meeting discussed the bogus Steele dossier and Russian collusion, but curiously Rice stressed that the former president said every aspect should be handled “by the book.”

Trying to cover for Obama, Rice inadvertently confessed to committing several crimes.

24 posted on 04/10/2019 5:52:23 AM PDT by Liz ( Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: Cboldt

As if a scam like this can have only one target.


I think they definitely wanted to take Flynn out, but mostly as a way to damage Trump. Trump was always the primary target. Flynn was collateral damage.


25 posted on 04/10/2019 6:04:32 AM PDT by rbg81 (Truth is stranger than fiction)
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To: billorites

Oh but he was fired because “ he lied to VP Pence”

We never ever heard the details
Was Pence a stooge or a stupe set up by Deep State
Or something else
Pence could have put in a word for General Flynn
He never has


26 posted on 04/10/2019 6:08:11 AM PDT by silverleaf (A man who kneels for the national anthem doesn't stand for much of anything)
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“If the proper authorities turn over the CIA’s rock and examine its underside, the result will be the exposure of an intelligence failure of galactic proportions. The CIA channeled Saudi money into al-Qaeda fronts in Syria and helped move a large part of the late Col. Qaddafi’s massive arsenal to Syria. The jihadists backed by the CIA eventually formed a good deal of ISIS. Heads would roll at CIA. And when I say “proper authorities,” I mean Gen. Flynn in his capacity as National Security Adviser, a job in which he lasted a month before the Deep State set him up and persuaded President Trump to fire him.”

My instincts all along on this told me what later facts would prove I was right about.

We - our CIA - was being played by our “friends” - the Saudis and a few Gulf states - exactly the same way they had played us when we armed the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan to help the Afghans kick out the Russians.

Our (CIA) role - supply the military intelligence on Assad, supply money arms and equipment, provide equipment and tactical training. Our “friends” role - through direct and indirect (using their friends of friends of friends) recruitment, vetting and provisioning “local” fighters. In this way, just as in Afghanistan, the CIA was blind and with heads in sand didn’t care what agendas were at work with those being recruited to fight Assad.

This is exactly how, through our “friends” the Saudis and the Pakistani ISI the U.S. role in Afghanistan helping to kick out the Russians went to the benefit of Al Queda, its many branches and cousins and eventually the Taliban.

Now we were doing it all over again in Syria.

I said it then - I “smelled” it - and I knew zero of the facts, other than this very simple set of facts:

EVERY major civil uprising against the Assad’s in Syria - EVER - has been LED by the Muslim Brotherhood of Syria. Yes there has been others pushed to be the “moderate” public face from time to time, but when pressed as to who is participating (and who was calling the shots for the majority who were participating) you always found the Muslim Brotherhood of Syria. Even openly, in 2013 in a Conference in the U.K. of all those Syrian groups fighting against Assad, it was admitted the 60% of the groups were part of or backed by the Muslim Brotherhood or more radical Islamists and in terms of fighters the percentage was higher than that.

Yet, the western media as the dutiful virtual media arm of the Obama administration continued to report the line of the “Syrian opposition” without seriously reporting that the majority of the organized fighting opposition outfits were not “moderates” but committed Islamists of the Muslim Brotherhood and Al Queda types.


27 posted on 04/10/2019 6:12:43 AM PDT by Wuli
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Flynn didn’t even enter the picture until early 2017. They used the Russia Ambassador conversation to try to concoct a Logan Act violation. There could have been a FISA on General Flynn that we don’t know about. That seems rather unlikely. Why go to all the trouble of getting a FISA on Carter Page back in October?


28 posted on 04/10/2019 6:35:10 AM PDT by EVO X
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"Why go to all the trouble of getting a FISA on Carter Page back in October?"

Carte blanche to get inside the Trump campaign.

29 posted on 04/10/2019 6:46:38 AM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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Whether intended this way or not, Kennedy’s presentation completely removes any blame for the coup from Hillary Clinton. It was all about an internal IC grudge. Yeah, that’s the ticket. Nothing to do with Hillary or her cabal, and their operatives at Fusion GPS, etc.

I would never argue that the IC was not intent on ruining Flynn for the reasons listed. But the overall “plot” has multiple origins, multiple targets, multiple sets of players. Most were designed to elect Clinton, and were either done at her direction or on her behalf. It was an opportunistic dynamic game whose goals and tactics evolved along with circumstances, the only constant being that it was a Democrat operation from A to Z. First goal: Smear any Republican candidates. Second: Keep Trump from being nominated by generating bad press about investigations and leaking accusations. When Trump was nominated, they moved to wrecking his election. When elected it moved to ruining his Presidency, and borking his appointees and supporters.

A Special Prosecutor was not needed to go after Flynn or Manafort. Prosecuting them was about delegitimizing Trump.


30 posted on 04/10/2019 12:55:21 PM PDT by Chewbarkah
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