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The Russia Hoax was originally aimed at Flynn, not Trump.
ChicagoBoyz ^ | April 4, 2019 | Michael Kennedy

Posted on 04/10/2019 4:32:05 AM PDT by billorites

I am more and more coming around to the opinion of David Goldman and Michael Ledeen.

The Russia hoax was aimed at Michael Flynn and his role as a Trump advisor.

It was all about General Flynn. I think it began on the battlefields of Iraq and Afghanistan, when Flynn changed the way we did intelligence against the likes of Zarqawi, bin Laden, the Taliban, and their allies.

General Flynn saw that our battlefield intelligence was too slow. We collected information from the Middle East and sent it back to Washington, where men with stars on their shoulders and others at the civilian intel agencies chewed it over, decided what to do, and sent instructions back to the war zone. By the time all that happened, the battlefield had changed. Flynn short-circuited this cumbersome bureaucratic procedure and moved the whole enterprise to the war itself. The new methods were light years faster. Intel went to local analysts, new actions were ordered from men on the battlefield (Flynn famously didn’t care about rank or status) and the war shifted in our favor.

I read Dakota Meyer’s book. He was denied permission to accompany his Civil Affairs unit into an Afghan village because he was being punished for shooting at Taliban tribesmen firing mortar rounds into his base camp. The reason ? They were “not in uniform.” The ROE of the Obama administration saved his life as the unit he should have been with was ambushed and killed. He made attempts to rescue them, resulting in his award the Medal of Honor.

On 8 September 2009, near the village of Ganjgal, Meyer learned that three Marines and a Navy Corpsman, who were members of Meyer’s squad and his friends, were missing after being ambushed by a group of insurgents. Under enemy fire, Meyer entered an area known to be inhabited by insurgents and eventually found the four missing servicemen dead and stripped of their weapons, body armor and radios. There he saw a Taliban fighter trying to take the bodies. The fighter tackled Meyer, and after a brief scuffle, Meyer grabbed a baseball-sized rock and beat the fighter to death.[8] With the help of Afghan soldiers, he moved the bodies to a safer area where they could be extracted.[9] During his search, Meyer “personally evacuated 12 friendly wounded and provided cover for another 24 Marines and soldiers to escape likely death at the hands of a numerically superior and determined foe.”

In his account of the battle in his book, he relates how it took hours to get permission for artillery to respond to the ambush.

In the book, Meyer makes a case for Army Captain William D. Swenson to be awarded the Medal of Honor. Swenson had criticized Army officers at the nearby Forward Operating Base Joyce for not providing fire support, the resulting political fallout not conducive to awarding him the medal. Those same officers were later cited following a military investigation for “negligent” leadership leading “directly to the loss of life” on the battlefield. Swenson was awarded the Medal of Honor on 15 October 2013

Obama’s Army. Flynn got into this argument.

By the time he was made head of DIA, Flynn had a real problem with the intelligence community, first because he had marginalized them, and for another reason: Flynn was determined to do a full-scale analysis of the (many) secret missions that had not been carried out over the years, and he wanted an accounting of the considerable funds allocated for them. He was not “A Team Player,” more than ever a major consideration to the Obama team. For example, the Benghazi attack on the consulate.

Barack Obama replaced General Carter Ham at AFRICOM after the general made a move to help the US security officials at the Benghazi consulate and annex. Ham was replaced by Gen. David Rodriquez on October 18.

The information I heard today was that General [Carter] Ham as head of Africom received the same e-mails the White House received requesting help/support as the attack was taking place. General Ham immediately had a rapid response unit ready and communicated to the Pentagon that he had a unit ready.

General Ham then received the order to stand down. His response was to screw it, he was going to help anyhow. Within 30 seconds to a minute after making the move to respond, his second in command apprehended General Ham and told him that he was now relieved of his command.

The story continues that now General Rodiguez would take General Ham’s place as the head of Africom.

Sure enough Obama nominated Gen. David Rodriguez to replace Gen. Carter Ham as commander of U.S. Africa Command.

Flynn got caught in this crossfire.

After Flynn was driven out of his post at DIA, things got even more threatening to the intelligence officials, as he became a prime advisor to candidate Trump and, early in the campaign, other Republicans. After the 2016 elections, the IC officials went all-out to keep him out of the White House, sometimes resorting to spreading ridiculous stories. President Obama warned Trump not to appoint Flynn as national security advisor, and Susan Rice actually warned the president-elect that Flynn might be in violation of the Logan Act, for which nobody has ever been prosecuted, and hence blackmailable by the Russians. Meanwhile, the Bureau had opened a counterintelligence investigation of Flynn’s activities. His digital communications were monitored, “unmasked” at the request of Obama officials, and leaked to friendly journalists.

Then Trump got involved in this war of the IC on Flynn.

Why did the Deep State throw caution to the winds in an desperate effort to frame Donald Trump for alleged collusion with Russia–and failing that, to entrap him in an obstruction of justice case? There are a lot reasons for the Establishment to hate Donald Trump, but one of them stands out. During the campaign, Donald Trump denounced the Obama administration for having created ISIS. That claim drew ridicule from the mainstream media, but it is entirely correct. Lt. Gen. Mike Flynn, Trump’s campaign adviser, was head of Defense Intelligence Agency in 2012 when the DIA blew the whistle on CIA backing for Sunni Islamists fighting the Assad regime during the then-raging Syrian civil war. As my friend Michael Ledeen wrote at PJ Media on March 26, the Mueller investigation was all about Flynn.

Flynn was bankrupted by Mueller at the urging of the Intelligence Community, led by Brennan and Clapper.

If the proper authorities turn over the CIA’s rock and examine its underside, the result will be the exposure of an intelligence failure of galactic proportions. The CIA channeled Saudi money into al-Qaeda fronts in Syria and helped move a large part of the late Col. Qaddafi’s massive arsenal to Syria. The jihadists backed by the CIA eventually formed a good deal of ISIS. Heads would roll at CIA. And when I say “proper authorities,” I mean Gen. Flynn in his capacity as National Security Adviser, a job in which he lasted a month before the Deep State set him up and persuaded President Trump to fire him.

The Benghazi incident never explained why the ambassador was in that consulate that night after complaining about security. What was going on ? As part of a revived Hillary Clinton investigation, we might find out.

Trump needs to pardon Flynn and reinstate him.


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To: billorites

It was McCabe who said, I believe, “F- Flynn, and then we f- Trump.” Flynn was just a means of getting to Trump and they intended to take out two enemies.


21 posted on 04/10/2019 5:29:45 AM PDT by browniexyz
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To: rbg81

As if a scam like this can have only one target.

The US government attempted to undermine a US presidential election, and when that failed, the US government attempted to depose the president with a popular uprising based on government-planted false accusation.

And no law or regulation can prevent a recurrance.


22 posted on 04/10/2019 5:32:06 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: billorites

Trump was the target of the shelling; but I GUARANTEE that Flynn was definitely destined to be a part of the “collateral damage” of that shelling!


23 posted on 04/10/2019 5:42:39 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (Diversity is tolerance; diverse points of views will not be tolerated!)
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To: All
Just unbelievable what they resorted to, in order to "get Trump." Their hatred knew no bounds. Even more eye-popping:
they were so sure of themselves, so fixated on hating Trump...... when all else failed, and Trump was elected,
they actually thought they could stop his inauguration.

Strzok told his FBI colleague and paramour Lisa Page not to worry about Trump being elected because “We’ll stop it.”

The rot started at the very top.......Obama basked in the power of the presidency....and its financial rewards.
Hillary was supposed to give him a third term.

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JOE DIGENOVA: brazen plot against Trump by FBI/DOJ w/ complicit media (bigtime cover for Obama)

FR POSTED The NYT's blatant attempt to cover-up Obama's plot to frame Trump was such that even though there was no evidence to support allegations that Pres Trump was “knowingly” or “unwittingly” working for Russia, the decision to investigate Trump was done "in good faith."

The rotting of the FBI hierarchy began with Steele's “unsubstantiated dossier,” financed by the Clinton campaign, then used to get a FISA warrant to wiretap Trump's campaign.

Those in the criminal justice process for decades had never before seen L/E concerned about anything unsubstantiated.

As "proof," the NYT whined that Trump “refused to criticize Russia.”
<><> Where was the FBI or DOJ angst in 2012 when Obama on an open mic requested Medvedev tell Putin that after the election, he would have “more flexibility” to deal with stuff like missile defense?
<><> Where was the angst when Sec of State Hillary attempted a Russian reset?
<><> Was anyone in L/E tossing his cookies in 2010 when Bill Clinton, took $500,000 from a Russian entity comprised of former Russian intelligence operatives?
<><>Or when the Obama admin allowed corrupt Russian-controlled companies to purchase Uranium One, thereby acquiring 20% of the US uranium supply.

NYT says firing Comey was “obstruction of justice."
<><> So if firing Comey obstructed justice, why wasn’t Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein, who recommended the firing, also placed under investigation?

The bizarre January 20, 2017 email Susan Rice wrote “to herself” purporting to document a January 5, 2017 meeting with the Obama crew gives a clue. The meeting discussed the bogus Steele dossier and Russian collusion, but curiously Rice stressed that the former president said every aspect should be handled “by the book.”

Trying to cover for Obama, Rice inadvertently confessed to committing several crimes.

24 posted on 04/10/2019 5:52:23 AM PDT by Liz ( Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: Cboldt

As if a scam like this can have only one target.


I think they definitely wanted to take Flynn out, but mostly as a way to damage Trump. Trump was always the primary target. Flynn was collateral damage.


25 posted on 04/10/2019 6:04:32 AM PDT by rbg81 (Truth is stranger than fiction)
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To: billorites

Oh but he was fired because “ he lied to VP Pence”

We never ever heard the details
Was Pence a stooge or a stupe set up by Deep State
Or something else
Pence could have put in a word for General Flynn
He never has


26 posted on 04/10/2019 6:08:11 AM PDT by silverleaf (A man who kneels for the national anthem doesn't stand for much of anything)
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To: billorites

“If the proper authorities turn over the CIA’s rock and examine its underside, the result will be the exposure of an intelligence failure of galactic proportions. The CIA channeled Saudi money into al-Qaeda fronts in Syria and helped move a large part of the late Col. Qaddafi’s massive arsenal to Syria. The jihadists backed by the CIA eventually formed a good deal of ISIS. Heads would roll at CIA. And when I say “proper authorities,” I mean Gen. Flynn in his capacity as National Security Adviser, a job in which he lasted a month before the Deep State set him up and persuaded President Trump to fire him.”

My instincts all along on this told me what later facts would prove I was right about.

We - our CIA - was being played by our “friends” - the Saudis and a few Gulf states - exactly the same way they had played us when we armed the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan to help the Afghans kick out the Russians.

Our (CIA) role - supply the military intelligence on Assad, supply money arms and equipment, provide equipment and tactical training. Our “friends” role - through direct and indirect (using their friends of friends of friends) recruitment, vetting and provisioning “local” fighters. In this way, just as in Afghanistan, the CIA was blind and with heads in sand didn’t care what agendas were at work with those being recruited to fight Assad.

This is exactly how, through our “friends” the Saudis and the Pakistani ISI the U.S. role in Afghanistan helping to kick out the Russians went to the benefit of Al Queda, its many branches and cousins and eventually the Taliban.

Now we were doing it all over again in Syria.

I said it then - I “smelled” it - and I knew zero of the facts, other than this very simple set of facts:

EVERY major civil uprising against the Assad’s in Syria - EVER - has been LED by the Muslim Brotherhood of Syria. Yes there has been others pushed to be the “moderate” public face from time to time, but when pressed as to who is participating (and who was calling the shots for the majority who were participating) you always found the Muslim Brotherhood of Syria. Even openly, in 2013 in a Conference in the U.K. of all those Syrian groups fighting against Assad, it was admitted the 60% of the groups were part of or backed by the Muslim Brotherhood or more radical Islamists and in terms of fighters the percentage was higher than that.

Yet, the western media as the dutiful virtual media arm of the Obama administration continued to report the line of the “Syrian opposition” without seriously reporting that the majority of the organized fighting opposition outfits were not “moderates” but committed Islamists of the Muslim Brotherhood and Al Queda types.


27 posted on 04/10/2019 6:12:43 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: billorites

Flynn didn’t even enter the picture until early 2017. They used the Russia Ambassador conversation to try to concoct a Logan Act violation. There could have been a FISA on General Flynn that we don’t know about. That seems rather unlikely. Why go to all the trouble of getting a FISA on Carter Page back in October?


28 posted on 04/10/2019 6:35:10 AM PDT by EVO X
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To: EVO X
"Why go to all the trouble of getting a FISA on Carter Page back in October?"

Carte blanche to get inside the Trump campaign.

29 posted on 04/10/2019 6:46:38 AM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: billorites

Whether intended this way or not, Kennedy’s presentation completely removes any blame for the coup from Hillary Clinton. It was all about an internal IC grudge. Yeah, that’s the ticket. Nothing to do with Hillary or her cabal, and their operatives at Fusion GPS, etc.

I would never argue that the IC was not intent on ruining Flynn for the reasons listed. But the overall “plot” has multiple origins, multiple targets, multiple sets of players. Most were designed to elect Clinton, and were either done at her direction or on her behalf. It was an opportunistic dynamic game whose goals and tactics evolved along with circumstances, the only constant being that it was a Democrat operation from A to Z. First goal: Smear any Republican candidates. Second: Keep Trump from being nominated by generating bad press about investigations and leaking accusations. When Trump was nominated, they moved to wrecking his election. When elected it moved to ruining his Presidency, and borking his appointees and supporters.

A Special Prosecutor was not needed to go after Flynn or Manafort. Prosecuting them was about delegitimizing Trump.


30 posted on 04/10/2019 12:55:21 PM PDT by Chewbarkah
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