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To: OIFVeteran; wbarmy; Bubba Ho-Tep; centurion316; DrewsMum; an amused spectator; central_va; ...
“So your ok with rebels breaking up a constitutional republic founded on the principle that the of all men being equal to form a constitutional republic founded on the concept that some men are meant to be masters and some to be slave?”

Constitutions of both the United States and the Confederate States enshrined slavery.

Presidents Lincoln and Davis both took oaths to defend and protect the pro-slavery Constitutions of their respective nations.

Until the Fort Sumter Incident the United States had more slave states than the Confederacy.

After the Emancipation Proclamation, President Lincoln added a slave state to his nation. He probably created a new slave to end slavery.

154 posted on 04/04/2019 1:11:30 PM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: jeffersondem
Constitutions of both the United States and the Confederate States enshrined slavery.

No they didn't both "enshrine" slavery - only one did. You keep dropping that like a turd in a punchbowl, possibly in the hopes that people will grow weary of correcting you and, like a true leftist, your "big lie" will become ostensible truth.

Only one constitution enshrined the Peculiar Institution - the confederate one. They were proud of their practice and mentioned it a dozen times. The United States Constitution only mentioned it by name when they expressly outlawed it.

156 posted on 04/04/2019 1:25:32 PM PDT by rockrr ( Everything is different now...)
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To: jeffersondem; BroJoeK

That’s very true, but a false equivalency. The founding fathers were so embarrassed by slavery they wouldn’t even mention it in the constitution. If you read the writings of the founding fathers they realized slavery was morally wrong, even the southern ones. The only reason they accepted it is because they thought it was more important to have all the states approve the constitution to create a stronger central government then the articles of confederation had created. If they would have pushed to end slavery South Carolina and Georgia probably would have walked. Then been gobbled up by Britain or someone else. Safety in numbers. In fact the US constitution allowed states to abolish slavery if they wished, which many northern states preceded to do.

Contrast that with the Confederate constitution that uses the word slavery, I believe, at least ten times. Makes it perpetual and does not allow states the right to abolish it. Then look at what the confederate founding fathers said about slavery. Not only did they think it wasn’t morally wrong they thought it was a positive good. Hell, their Vice President even repudiated the Declaration of Independence claim that “all men are created equal, endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights”, in his inauguration speech.

No, my FRiend, you couldn’t be more wrong about the Confederate founding fathers being similiar to the American founding fathers


161 posted on 04/04/2019 1:33:58 PM PDT by OIFVeteran
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