I'm not trying to speak for Trump but,

vanity | 3-20-2019 | Chuckles

[conservatism_IS_compassion]

the time for “North Mexico” was actually 1848 when the US had control of Mexico and had its government in custody. We should have annexed Mexico then.

. . . so that they could outvote our ancestors in 1852?

IMHO that was the very reason not to do it.

[chuckles]

I will agree to forget his military record and concentrate on his betrayal of America in the Senate, but there are PLENTY of testimony about the Forestall incident that is NOT flattering to McCain. Anyone can serve in the military and even get an honorable discharge that probably needed to go to prison. I served with some. But they didn't go on to politics and use their military service and their dad as a springboard. What people do usually in a POW camp is try their best to survive.

Do you not think he felt the world owed him reverence because he was a POW? Every questionable thing that came up always ended up with his time in Hanoi. That's fine but it shouldn't buy you a spot in the Senate until you die in office. For me, it's no different that Robert Byrd being the "Dean" of the Senate" and forget his past even as he said the "N" word up until the bitter end.

McCain's treatment of Bush was horrendous and he played to the press as the "Maverick". Then when it was "his turn", the press hated him enough to give us Obama. Then he blamed Palin? What a worm! There are countless harmful votes where he sided with the Dems, but the last one with the thumbs down on Obamacare just to piss of Trump was pitiful. That was NOT HONORABLE! Forget all the good will he gets on the Hanoi Hilton! EFF HIM! Obamacare cost me my "Cadillac" insurance. I worked 30 years for less money to keep my insurance for LIFE! I had free insurance and it remained free when Medicare comes. I got free part B and D by my company. Now my insurance after retirement is $840 a month for worse coverage. When I retired I wasn't planning on paying a house payment size insurance payment that hasn't stopped increasing. Yeah, I'm pissed at Obama, but why couldn't we overturn it after giving Trump a Republican Senate? Turncoat RINO's like McCain, Flake, and a couple of others are not any better that traitors to me. If McCain had lived longer, I see him being the deciding vote on taking up AR 15's, or giving Amnesty to illegals, oh wait, he's already done that.

So no, I'm not happy with McCain even if he single highhandedly gave blow jobs to everyone in Hanoi.

[rlmorel]

Honestly, I don’t think you and I disagree much, but just leave the Forrestal part out.

Just to be clear, I am not sticking up in any way for McCain, I destest the man and what he stood for. All you say about him using his family name and POW status as a springboard, I agree with. You sound like you are arguing with me about it, and we don’t need to...

And I completely agree with your second to last paragraph regarding his behavior with respect to Obamacare. Believe me, I agree.

I do think we need to have our facts in order though.