Posted on 03/12/2019 2:15:18 PM PDT by Borges
A book and movie I have never seen, although I have it on DVD. But I did read CANDY! Never saw the movie either.
I remember lots of movies rated “R” back in 1969 that are now rated PG, or PG-13.
Hebephilia. Wow! A word I’ve never heard. Meh, too young for me.
I know. I’m proud of myself. I knew pedophile was not the right word. Because I knew pedophile referred to prepubescent. And Lolita, even in the book, had already reached puberty. So I looked it up and that was the word I needed.
Yay me.
Not at all
I don’t happen to agree with effete critics who think this is some kind of wonderful
I used to audit at The Actor’s Studio. I thought Shelley was ok but people who were there much longer than me said she was an awful person. I always did enjoy watching Shelley get murdered by people like Robert Mitchum and Montgomery Clift.
Jeremy Irons can be quite charming in real life but on screen something dark and unpleasant emerges - I noticed this years ago. (He also looks a lot like Boris Karloff which doesn't help.)
What does it lack that you feel great literature demands?
Trivia: Ruth Bader Ginsburg took Nabokov’s Literature class at Cornell.
I do not find the fantasies and actions of a mentally ill sexual deviant to be of interest to me. Thank but no thanks
Only in the degenerate modern world is this considered “real art”. The written equivalent of Christ in a piss jar
My contractor employer and compadre insists that James Mason would have done the character of Hannibal Lechter better than Anthony Hopkins did, anytime someone makes a Hannibal the cannibal reference-as a kid, he liked creepy nice guy characters...
Your insight and info are very interesting-living in the rural Southwest, I’ve never been within 500 miles of a “real” actor-Jeremy Irons does look like Boris Karloff, who was the personification of sinister and scary to me as a kid-if he was in a movie, I wanted to see it and be scared half to death...
I read the book and saw the movie “Candy”-the book was a little unreal, I thought-but the movie was played for some laughs-especially John Astin’s and Ringo Starr’s characters. I’m sure there was an unofficial list of must-read/see hard “R” adult books and movies for mid-to-late teens at that time-”Candy”, “Myra Breckenridge”, Lady Chatterly’s Lover”, The Debauched Hospodar”, “Fanny Hill”, etc. Interesting that some of those books were written a century or more before then...
Those books/movies all had the lure of the forbidden/taboo then-they were cautionary tales, and did not depict things normal people would do, especially the homosexual, sadistic stuff, orgies and underage sex partners, etc-now, kids are being told by teachers in public schools that those things are “normal” and okay-in my opinion, we need to go back to the cautionary tales of these things NOT being normal and good...
So you also object to Macbeth and the stories of Edgar Allan Poe that deal with a murderer’s point of view. “Crime and Punishment” as well.
I heartily disliked Jane Fonda even when I was a teen-the characters she played in movies had depth and substance-well-maybe not so much with Barbarella-or were even gritty and real like the prostitute in A Walk on the Wild Side-but then the real Jane Fonda was shown on TV at some event or protest-and she was distant and condescending-a screechy nasty bitch who demanded all the attention for whatever she deemed important. I think she is still an attention whore. Years ago my hubby and I were watching the news one night when we saw that she and Ted Turner had married-I said just what she craves-more money and another famous husband-hubby commented that was NOT a marriage-it was a merger...
You lack reading comprehension. Not playing
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Marriage became economic. The state weaponized it as a way of transferring wealth from men to women.
I laugh every time I hear one of those TSA’s on sports radio talking about ‘Fatherhood’ and how men should step up and father their kids. Tax dollars made that ad too. So much acidic irony there.
The works I mentioned all get into the minds monstrous and mentally ill characters. Show me the difference.
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