Posted on 03/10/2019 4:58:12 AM PDT by csvset
Not good to see this trend.
And FlightRadar on their Twitter feed is also saying this one had unstable vertical speed.
https://twitter.com/flightradar24
Some FReepers are easily swayed by rhymes like the OJ Simpson jury.
Probably overslept because of the time change. They'll likely be here soon enough yelling 'pilot error'.
Actually there were rumors of possible design flaw after recent Asian crash.
I think Southwest recently added 800 MAX to their fleet.
I recently read a book on the physics of airplane crashes. In the modern era, nearly every single crash arose from either improperly calculating the weight of cargo or not securing that cargo properly, meaning it moves around. The weight and position of cargo are crucial variables in calculating a plane’s proper takeoff speed.
The fact that this plane crashed shortly after takeoff makes me think that could be the case.
Or someone who wants people to think there's something wrong with the design.
Cargo door blowing out is not speculation. Rather than designing a door that sealed toward the body in flight it was designed to open outward BECAUSE THEY COULD LOAD MORE CARGO. When not set properly before takeoff the pins let go and away went the door at 30k height. The flooring collapsed then cutting controls and hydrolac fluid since the tubing ran under the cabin rather than above it. I flew often cross country in the 70 and 80s and avoided this plane at all costs. We
If the world had the green new deal and everyone traveled by horseback, these tragedies would never happen
I was referring to the nations not the aircraft. ‘ If it ain’t Boeing, I ain’t going’.
As someone once involved in maintenance on military 737s, I wonder what Boeing maintenance facilities, practices, and technicians are to be found in Africa. Do these places get the same oversight and expectations of high standards from Boeing that the U.S. military does?
Boeing doesn't like to see their airplanes crash no matter who is flying them.
Thanks for that link! Yikes, look at them all....
The engine fell off because of an improper maintenance procedure, not because of a design flaw.
But the DC-10 did go on to have a much better record as a cargo freighter.
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“Ethiopian has a good safety record. This is the second catastrophic accident involving the 737MAX in six months. Could there be something wrong with the design?”
Probably a good plane, but they likely have some Tesla types writing the software. They certainly did in the first crash. Probably some other bug. I’m sure Musk will push a code update and solve the problem, like he promised when his cars could barely make it out of people’s driveways during the polar votex (due to batteries not having any capability).
There were two cargo door incidents, AA Flight 96 where they discovered the problem and fixed it, and Turkish Air Flight 981 which occurred after the problem had been discovered but had not been fixed on that aircraft.
No problems with the cargo door since 1974.
Commercial pilots these days spend very little time actually "flying" the plane. You'll hear the autopilot disengage alarm most times just as the plane crosses the threshold on landing, and the computer is given control almost immediately after takeoff. So a pilot with 6000 hours of flying time actually has very little of that in stick time.
Combine that with the full computerization of the plane and pilots are struggling to react to in-flight emergencies -- Air France, Indonesia, and Ethiopia now being prime examples.
It's a Catch 22, though. I spend a lot of time in the air. I would prefer the computer systems flying the plane in most instances. But our pilots need more time on the stick -- and in simulators -- than before.
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