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No more opuses (opusi?). Stand and fight.

We need to toughen up and hang in.

I’m pretty sure the feeling many of us got over the last couple of days is that we were told NOT to do that. The other night there was a troll infestation. The next day, who got called out? Not the trolls, not the mods who allowed the abuse, but the good Q folks fighting the trolls. As a matter of fact, some posters even called our good Q folks idiots. Another insinuated that it was the Q peoples fault that the mods did nothing.

There is only one group actually responsible for what happened the other night. This is not the first time this has happened either. But, we all know these “paid” troll activities would never be happening on a freeper canteen thread, or a gardening thread, or a please donate money thread. But, is totally allowed on Q threads. Coincidence?

” The other night there was a troll infestation. The next day, who got called out? Not the trolls, not the mods who allowed the abuse, but the good Q folks fighting the trolls.”

Is that what happened to several posters? I have been away and busy so I wasn’t sure what happened. Who did we lose? Since I was busy I did a lot of scrolling past the trolls and replies to trolls. A lot. I do not understand why trolls continue to get a pass to come here especially since they may be professionals. Who else would be so invested to keep harping and why would a normal person care? I hate to lose good contributors.

There is only one group actually responsible for what happened the other night.

ThankQ for that statement.

I'm ALWAYS a fan of DON'T BLAME THE VICTIM. Always. You are so right. There is only ONE set of people to blame.

I hated so much to see all the division and arguing that ensued THAT WAS ALL CAUSED BY THEM.

I hated to see people opus out because of WHAT THEY DID.

I hated to see the aftermath and could only imagine them laughing as they read it.

I sometimes, and I think we all do, see a "perfect world" of how things SHOULD be done. We think we can stop these trolls if we just get everybody to react to them a certain way.

I thought I had the answer, with my "let Bagster handle it" approach. But that would take 100% percent compliance and that just ain't gonna happen. I thought that the mods and/or Jim Robinson's own words and rules would handle it, but the trolls either haven't got that word, or carry on despite.

At this point, and I always have, to be honest, realized that, at the beginning of each new thread, there will be a time of festival. So, we either react to them, and risk prolonging festival, or we don't.

Lots of people don't like festival. Lots of people don't like ignoring them. Two different philosophies that will never the twain shall meet. THAT is the reality. It's just not good that those realities try to force the other reality to change.

What's the answer? Dunno. Maybe to just accept that certain things are the way they are, be calm, and "cultivate our garden", as Voltaire said in "Candide". That's one of my fave quotes of all time and helps me deal with stress and life's troubles.

So, I just sit back and don't let trolls bother me and go about my business. Though I swear I'm an adrenaline junkie from way back and do love a good fight.

Anyway, that's my two cents and all I'm gonna say about it. Even this post will entertain the trolls and any further conversation will let them know they are being successful, which I also hate to see.

We're here to do a thing. Let 's just do it.

Nothing more. Time for coffee. I won't have anything more to say about this and we now return you to your normal programming.

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