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Boeing 767 cargo plane from Miami crashes near Galveston, 3 believed dead
Florida Sun Sentinel ^ | Feb 23, 2019 | Marc Freeman

Posted on 02/23/2019 2:25:15 PM PST by Zhang Fei

An Amazon cargo plane originating from Miami crashed into a bay east of Houston early Saturday afternoon, apparently killing three people on board, local officials said.

“Knowing what I saw I don’t believe anyone could have survived,” Chambers County Sheriff Brian Hawthorne told reporters, describing floating debris. “It looks like total devastation from the aircraft.”

The plane, a twin-engine Boeing 767 cargo jetliner operated by Atlas Air Inc., crashed into Trinity Bay near Anahuac, Texas, shortly before 12:45 p.m., according to the Federal Aviation Administration.

Atlas Air Flight 3591 lost radar and radio contact approximately 30 miles southeast of Houston George Bush Intercontinental Airport. The aircraft was flying from Miami to Houston.

(Excerpt) Read more at sun-sentinel.com ...


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Amazon cargo plane splashes in the Gulf of Mexico.
1 posted on 02/23/2019 2:25:15 PM PST by Zhang Fei
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To: Zhang Fei

More info here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3730070/posts


2 posted on 02/23/2019 2:26:20 PM PST by Moonman62 (Facts are racist.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Amazon kills.


3 posted on 02/23/2019 2:26:28 PM PST by wetgundog (CNN is FAKE NEWS ...Just added NBC.)
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Wow RIP. The 767 has been an amazing and safe airplane. I will follow the investigation closely


4 posted on 02/23/2019 2:58:17 PM PST by ground_fog ( My God this was from today!)
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To: Zhang Fei

Guess it wasn’t ready for Prime time


5 posted on 02/23/2019 3:06:08 PM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0ndRzaz2o)
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RIP, crew.


6 posted on 02/23/2019 3:15:47 PM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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If you look at flightaware.com, they got down to 3500’ and then nosed into the bay.


7 posted on 02/23/2019 3:18:16 PM PST by crusty old prospector
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Allah snack bar?


8 posted on 02/23/2019 3:20:57 PM PST by crusty old prospector
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If it really just nosed in from 3,500ft I’m guessing mechanical failure of some sort.

*Expert opinion based solely on watching “Air Disasters” on Smithsonian Banneker...


9 posted on 02/23/2019 3:37:06 PM PST by GreenLanternCorps (Hi! I'm the Dread Pirate Roberts! (TM) Ask about franchise opportunities in your area.arare)
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Video at ZH shows the plane flying level but very slowly just before crash, which isn't shown. Looks like the right wing dips just before video ends.
There was speculation that plane might have been attempting to crash land in the water.
Debris shows two large pieces of the fuselage almost as if the plane split in two.
10 posted on 02/23/2019 3:51:44 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (The internet has driven the world mad.)
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“If it really just nosed in from 3,500ft I’m guessing mechanical failure of some sort.”

Mechanical failure in the flaps - possible.


11 posted on 02/23/2019 3:55:03 PM PST by Dennis M.
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Why pull the other thread?


12 posted on 02/23/2019 4:16:26 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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That or the cargo shifted.

The weather is A OK


13 posted on 02/23/2019 4:17:53 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: GreenLanternCorps

My husband said he thought it was a possible cargo shift.


14 posted on 02/23/2019 4:53:00 PM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheelbarrow)
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“If you look at flightaware.com, they got down to 3500’ and then nosed into the bay.”
There was a thunderstorm/rain storm front where it dropped into the bay.
Very strong dry line front moved across Texas this morning into the afternoon.


15 posted on 02/23/2019 5:26:49 PM PST by 9422WMR
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To: Zhang Fei

quick review of wiki gives three possible clues:

1) Bangkok on May 26, 1991, following the in-flight deployment of the left engine thrust reverser on a 767-300ER; none of the 223 aboard survived; as a result of this accident all 767 thrust reversers were deactivated until a redesign was implemented.[180] Investigators determined that an electronically controlled valve, common to late-model Boeing aircraft, was to blame.[181] A new locking device was installed on all affected jetliners,

2) In January 2014, the US Federal Aviation Administration issued a directive that ordered inspections of the elevators on more than 400 767s beginning in March 2014; the focus is on fasteners and other parts that can fail and cause the elevators to jam. The issue was first identified in 2000 and has been the subject of several Boeing service bulletins. The inspections and repairs are required to be completed within six years.[196] The aircraft has also had multiple occurrences of “uncommanded escape slide inflation” during maintenance or operations,[197] and during flight.[198][199] In late 2015, the FAA issued a preliminary directive to address the issue.[200]

3) On October 28, 2016, American Airlines Flight 383, a 767-300ER with 161 passengers and 9 crew members, aborted takeoff at Chicago O’Hare Airport following an uncontained failure of the right GE CF6-80C2 engine


16 posted on 02/23/2019 6:38:36 PM PST by blueplum ( "...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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Amazon is new to the air cargo business. Gotta wonder if any corners were cut, either on maintenance or pilot standards.


17 posted on 02/23/2019 6:56:22 PM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: SaxxonWoods
Video at ZH shows the plane flying level but very slowly just before crash, which isn't shown. Looks like the right wing dips just before video ends.

Not knowing any more than this, sounds like the classic slow flight mode stall. My question would be why so slow at 3,500 feet with 10 miles visibility?

18 posted on 02/23/2019 8:19:27 PM PST by eastexsteve
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Wow RIP. The 767 has been an amazing and safe airplane. I will follow the investigation closely/I>

Yep. These planes practically fly themselves.

19 posted on 02/23/2019 8:22:32 PM PST by Drew68 (No, as a matter of fact, I didn't read the article.)
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Amazon is new to the air cargo business. Gotta wonder if any corners were cut, either on maintenance or pilot standards.

Boeing isn't going to let Amazon cut corners on aircraft maintenance, if they even let Amazon have any say in it at all.

20 posted on 02/23/2019 8:44:08 PM PST by Drew68 (No, as a matter of fact, I didn't read the article.)
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