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Ground-breaking electric Chevrolet Volt runs out of juice
Associated Press ^ | February 22, 2019 | Tom Krisher

Posted on 02/22/2019 8:10:01 PM PST by Olog-hai

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To: willk

They said that electric cars were the future a century ago, too. That was before the electric starter was invented for the Otto cycle engine.


21 posted on 02/22/2019 9:34:07 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: willk

I see hybrids having a few, because it should be possible to design a system that takes the load off enough to save on gas to pay for the battery.

But we’ve topped out what can be done on electricity alone and, without some unknown scientific principle being discovered, they will not improve much from where they are and they are almost useless as things stand.


22 posted on 02/22/2019 9:34:10 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death by cultsther)
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To: Jonty30

Few should be read as future.


23 posted on 02/22/2019 9:37:41 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death by cultsther)
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To: willk

My daughter has a Volt and she loves it. We have solar and she can plug it in every day for almost nothing. It switches to gas automatically or you can do it yourself.

And it’s a beautiful car.


24 posted on 02/22/2019 9:42:06 PM PST by altura
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To: willk

Is that you, barack?


25 posted on 02/22/2019 9:48:04 PM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: spokeshave
1925 Doble E-20 Steam Car (Jay Leno's Garage)
26 posted on 02/22/2019 9:51:15 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Olog-hai

-40 Fahrenheit in 5mph traffic is no place for a battery-powered vehicle.


27 posted on 02/22/2019 9:51:24 PM PST by Spruce
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To: spokeshave
Technically we are still in the steam age.

Even though we can split atoms, what do we do with the energy? Boil water!

Even the internal combustion engine is taking advantage of expanded vapors aka steam power.

28 posted on 02/22/2019 10:11:38 PM PST by rawcatslyentist ("All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing")
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To: Vince Ferrer

That’s the one Howard Hughes owned IIRC.

Very interesting how Leno upgrades the Dobles’ steam generators with modern high-temperature ceramic coatings so that heating up to 3,000°F (also normal operating temperature inside a steam locomotive firebox) is not only easier but results in far less heat stress on the generator.


29 posted on 02/22/2019 10:12:18 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: rawcatslyentist

That’s the right way to do it; nuclear subs that use steam turbines don’t need a refuel for about half a century.

Most power plants that use other fuels, i.e. chemical reactions rather than nuclear, don’t use the hot gases from the combustion to turn the big turbines either; they use steam. Some are combined-cycle plants that use both hot gas and steam.


30 posted on 02/22/2019 10:18:53 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: hal ogen

“Is that you, barack?”

Are you kidding? Barack doesn’t own a Volt.


31 posted on 02/22/2019 10:24:56 PM PST by willk (everyone)
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To: Olog-hai

If you haven’t seen them, Jay Leno has several steam videos, they are excellent. His staff have become experts on the technology with the effort they took getting them running.


32 posted on 02/22/2019 10:27:57 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Olog-hai

[GM, he said, should have spent more to promote the car. “I’ve been really surprised at the lack of marketing,” he said. “I would not have an electric car if I did not have that gas engine.”]


I don’t think this Volt owner understands that every Volt sold lost money for GM. It wanted to sell just enough to help the blended gas mileage of its cars sold in the US meet CAFE standards. Marketing the heck out of the car would have eaten into GM’s profitability if it had actually sold more Volts.


33 posted on 02/22/2019 10:32:04 PM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: sparklite2

The 2017-19 Volts can easily go 53 miles when fully charged. The gas engine sends a charge to the battery which powers the electric engine. The Bolt can go at least 238 miles on a charge and do 0-60 in 6.5 seconds. There are now Teslas out there that have over 300,000 miles and still at 80% or better of original battery capacity.


34 posted on 02/22/2019 10:35:52 PM PST by willk (everyone)
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To: willk

I wish FR had an edit button. The engine only kicks in when the battery is depleted but does not directly power the car. It recharges the battery which powers the electric motor that drives the car.


35 posted on 02/22/2019 10:39:56 PM PST by willk (everyone)
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To: Vince Ferrer

One of my favorites is his Advance steam tractor. Pity he keeps it in the city instead of having it in the fields where they can really show what they are capable of.

The Dobles are fascinating because since their steam generators heat up a half gallon of water at a time, there’s no danger of a boiler explosion in spite of the high heat thanks to the smaller volumes of steam.


36 posted on 02/22/2019 10:40:01 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: willk

That’s probably what needs to be done in order to sell more hybrids, optimizing the relationship between burning fuel and using the battery, refining it to a point where there is a seamless change between burning gasoline and using the battery where the driver isn’t having to think about it. It just happens.


37 posted on 02/22/2019 10:59:10 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death by cultsther)
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To: willk

“Embrace the technology”

I do. In a 450 HP 5.0. 0-60 in 3.9,
@22 mpg and a 350 mile range. I can
even use my heater when it’s cold.


38 posted on 02/22/2019 11:01:17 PM PST by Lean-Right (Eat More Moose)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Yeah, how about that? Now they have the Bolt.
2019 Chevy Bolt EV Review - The Best Electric Car? | TheStraightPipes | Published on Oct 30, 2018

2019 Chevy Bolt EV Review - The Best Electric Car? | TheStraightPipes | Published on Oct 30, 2018
Hyundai Kona Electric vs. Chevrolet Bolt EV: Which Is the Best Affordable Long-Range EV? | Edmunds | Published on Nov 24, 2018

Hyundai Kona Electric vs. Chevrolet Bolt EV: Which Is the Best Affordable Long-Range EV? | Edmunds | Published on Nov 24, 2018

39 posted on 02/22/2019 11:11:54 PM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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To: Olog-hai

“”Five years from now when I’m not president anymore, I’ll buy one and drive it myself,” Obama promised 1,600 auto workers at a United Auto Workers union event in Detroit”. BHO February 2012

Sure hope Onama kept his promise.


40 posted on 02/22/2019 11:14:52 PM PST by thegagline
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