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Tesla shares fall after Consumer Reports says it will no longer recommend Model 3
CNBC ^ | 02/21/2019 | Phil LeBeau

Posted on 02/21/2019 10:41:46 AM PST by Red Badger

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To: Rio

My neighbor has a top line Hyundai Genesis.
It’s a beautiful car.
Has had a few warranty problems but the dealer treats him like a potentate. He’s a happy customer.


61 posted on 02/21/2019 12:55:56 PM PST by nascarnation
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To: newfreep

How many consecutive 0-60 runs can it do? The joke with beating the whoop-do-do Tesla is to challenge them to a best our of 5 runs, back to back.


62 posted on 02/21/2019 12:56:59 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: fireman15

Based on what I’ve read, Tesla has ramped up their production with bad quality and is swamping their service network (which wasn’t expanded nearly as much) with broken cars. Also people complain of multi-month waits for repair parts.

The folks who bought their 6-figure S and X cars typically have a fleet and don’t care much, but the 3-model is targeted more toward people who need a car every day.


63 posted on 02/21/2019 1:05:32 PM PST by nascarnation
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To: doorgunner69
Yep...but the styling of that Audi prototype is awesome.

My last two cars have been Acuras...and I would never consider Tesla since I live in Ohio. The cold winters would further limit the usability.

I've started looking and zoning in on the Lexus IS-350 F and, my favorite, the Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio with its' Ferrari V6-BiTurbo engine (505 HP), Ferrari steering system...and 191 mph top speed.

My heart says the Alfa.


64 posted on 02/21/2019 1:06:27 PM PST by newfreep ("INSIDE EVERY PROGRESSIVE IS A TOTALITARIAN SCREAMING TO GET OUT" - DAVID HOROWITZ)
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To: Moonman62

Musk lectures us on carbon-induced climate change while his G650ER flew about 250,000 km last year...or about equivalent to 300 cars.


65 posted on 02/21/2019 1:21:03 PM PST by nascarnation
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To: nascarnation

Good job of parroting the Washington Post.


66 posted on 02/21/2019 1:30:14 PM PST by Moonman62 (Facts are racist.)
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To: Moonman62

Just because Bezos and Musk hate each other doesn’t change the facts.


67 posted on 02/21/2019 1:34:01 PM PST by nascarnation
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To: nascarnation

The Washington Post article was a one sided hit piece, and you are obviously using it as a source.

Of course, you’re not alone. Other FReepers have used the LATimes hit piece to confirm their bias against Musk.

The people who like him the least are the ones who know the least about him. Newspapers hate him because his companies don’t buy advertising.


68 posted on 02/21/2019 1:51:27 PM PST by Moonman62 (Facts are racist.)
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To: Moonman62

There’s no dispute about all the jet miles, no matter what source you use. The Tesla stock shorts track every trip, including all those 20 mile commuter flights in LA and Silicon Valley.

Musk is as fake as Burney Sanders on this topic.


69 posted on 02/21/2019 1:56:56 PM PST by nascarnation
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To: Red Badger

I have nothing but high praise for Subaru.

We have a 2016 Outback with 114,000 miles and 2017 Outback Limited at 34,000.

Both cars have the EyeSight system with the adaptive cruse control. I can not express how much I love that feature.

All wheel drive, awesome traction in the snow and ice. 4 cylinder boxer has good power and averages around 25 mph.

The best cars I have ever owned, and I’ve had a lot over the years.


70 posted on 02/21/2019 2:34:44 PM PST by Jotmo (Whoever said, "The pen is mightier than the sword." has clearly never been stabbed to death.)
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4 cylinder boxer has good power and averages around 25 mph.

Well, no wonder.............................

71 posted on 02/21/2019 2:36:39 PM PST by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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To: Red Badger

“Fisher points out that the Model 3 owned and tested by Consumer Reports had a rear window with a small stress fracture.”

Happens when temperatures change, since glass and steel (or aluminum) expand/contract at different rates as temperatures vary. Obviously that’s well known to traditional car companies, so they don’t try to fit the windows right up to the frame, but I guess Tesla is learning that the hard way.

Bottom line, Consumer Reports needs to better understand the REAL USE of Teslas, which is to be a talking point for owners to show off their ‘green cred’, and not take them outside in colder weather (when the window frame contracts against the glass). I’m surprised that Musk didn’t tweet something to that effect.


72 posted on 02/21/2019 3:04:24 PM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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“Lol. I keep my cars about eight years and the only costly repair in the 35 years I had was an $65 wiper motor on my Jeep about about 25 years ago.”

I think the latest version of Tesla software gets rid of the need for windshield wiper motors. So take that you tech-denier.


73 posted on 02/21/2019 3:11:26 PM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

I was ticked. The screws holding the wipers were screwed in from the bottom in the upper arm. When it started backing out it jammed between the arms and burned out the motor.


74 posted on 02/21/2019 4:01:36 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: nascarnation

And it’s also a fact that you only acknowledge the negative in order to confirm your cognitive bias against Musk.


75 posted on 02/21/2019 5:12:45 PM PST by Moonman62 (Facts are racist.)
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To: KevinB
Audi has made dramatic improvements in reliability.

Same goes for VW. According to the CR ranking, VW is just above Honda, and just below Toyauto. I have a '16 GTI, and it's been great so far.

76 posted on 02/21/2019 5:27:09 PM PST by Fresh Wind (Trump: "America will never be a socialist country!")
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To: Moonman62
What have you done lately to qualify as Musk’s judge?

Well you are absolutely right about that. What Musk has managed to accomplish is incredible. But part of the reason he has managed to literally reach the stars is that he is a high stakes gambler with his own money, with his investors money and with government grant money. At some point people willing to take big risks often end up taking big falls. The Tesla Motor Company is a house of cards.

77 posted on 02/21/2019 5:58:24 PM PST by fireman15
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To: fireman15

Tesla has been in business for over 15 years, employs 48,000 people and had revenue of over $21 billion last year. That’s some house of cards.


78 posted on 02/21/2019 7:04:52 PM PST by Moonman62 (Facts are racist.)
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To: Moonman62
Tesla has been in business for over 15 years, employs 48,000 people and had revenue of over $21 billion last year. That’s some house of cards.

General Motors has been in business for 111 years had $145 Billion dollars of revenue in 2017. GM was a house of cards; we knew people who were true believers in GM (a little hard to believe now). They put their money where their mouth was; they had nearly all of their savings in GM bonds and they lost everything in 2009.

79 posted on 02/21/2019 7:26:36 PM PST by fireman15
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To: fireman15

GM was a finance company dominated by unions.

It had little in common with the Tesla of today.

Your claim about Tesla is nothing but negative cognitive bias.


80 posted on 02/21/2019 7:39:55 PM PST by Moonman62 (Facts are racist.)
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