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If gun control...doesn't work, why is gun crime so low in other developed nations with these laws?
Quora.com ^ | Jon Davis Jon Davis, Marine Corps weapons instructor

Posted on 02/15/2019 6:04:21 PM PST by daniel1212

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To: xrmusn
It is ‘easier’ to control your people if quick death is the sentence for drug trafficking, severe caning for spitting on the sidewalk, cut off appendages related to the crime they committed, public stoning and/or executions etc etc etc

Well, Biblically, thieves had to pay back what they stole as via slavery. And many crimes were capital ones , normally executed by communal stoning (the offense was against all), versus antiseptic state execution. And what is missing in the Old Testament is much of any prison system.

21 posted on 02/15/2019 6:56:27 PM PST by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: daniel1212

This dumb question deserves a dumb answer.

“Because there are no guns”

Instead, a guy who is just stronger than you, or perhaps attackers in pairs.. they win.

You die.

My hero, John Moses Browning, invented a device that allows a little old lady with no combat experience to defend herself.


22 posted on 02/15/2019 7:00:26 PM PST by Celerity
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To: daniel1212; All
False premises built into the question.

The comparison should not be "gun crime", it should be all crime.

If "gun crime" goes up, but all crime goes down, it is a win.

Another false premise is the cherry-picking of countries.

Why do they ignore Mexico, Brazil, Jamaica, Russia? Lots of Mexicans, Brazilians, and Jamaicans in the U.S.

Cherry picking the countries compared, and limiting the discussion to "gun crime" is just a way to create the results desired.

23 posted on 02/15/2019 7:01:51 PM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: daniel1212

Good read...


24 posted on 02/15/2019 7:02:45 PM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0ndRzaz2o)
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To: Ken H

I’ve left the northeast, and now am leaving Pennsylvania.

Let me tell everyone.. these are dangerous places. Detroit level of danger.


25 posted on 02/15/2019 7:03:32 PM PST by Celerity
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To: Celerity

I’m sure there are, but that doesn’t negate what I said. Any discussion of crime that doesn’t factor in demographics is meaningless.


26 posted on 02/15/2019 7:30:16 PM PST by Ken H (2019 => The House of Representin')
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To: xrmusn

When DC had its prison in Lorton VA - about 25 miles from DC, it was asked why they kept it there and the then Mayor, Marion Barry, said they had to keep it open as it may be the ONLY time some of the locals got to leave their neighborhood.

Believe it was also Barry that said the crime rate in DC wasn’t so bad if you threw out the murders....

Mayor for life huh....some of these lifetime pols makes one seriously believe there definitely should be a litmus test for the VOTERS especially when the only way term limits gets passed is for the people it affects to vote on it.....Nevah Hoppen Cholliee


27 posted on 02/15/2019 7:41:43 PM PST by xrmusn (6/98"Getting rich as a Politician means doing something illegal''(trunc) HS Truman)
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To: marktwain

This is an excellent article. Ignore the title. It leads you to believe that the results of gun control in other nations is somehow saying that we should do it, too. I know what everyone’s reaction here is, because mine is the same. Here we go again, another article glorifying gun control and why the rest of the world is better for it and we are stupid for clinging to our guns in this country.

Just skip the title and get right into reading. Be patient. He makes salient points. He’s obviously a patriot.

I read the article, word for word, even read it out loud to my family. It does a very good job of explaining why other nations actually have us to thank for their low violence and that they are really ticking time bombs because of their demographics that have also aided in low violence. The nations he has chosen to show graphs of are very appropriate. BTW, he didn’t make a big deal out of it being gun specific violence, so I think his point is broader than that.


28 posted on 02/15/2019 8:25:27 PM PST by mom of young patriots
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To: daniel1212

We are blowing a golden opportunity to get blacks and Mexicans to turn on their slave owning democrap, by not exploiting the fact that they will loose the right to defend themselves. Spread the truth that white democraps want to take away minority peoples guns and right to defend themselves. There is no way in hell that the Democraps could refute it as a lie....especially with Bella Pelosi comment to declare a crisis to confiscate guns!


29 posted on 02/15/2019 8:59:13 PM PST by Bommer (Help 2ndDivisionVet - https://www.gofundme.com/mvc.php?route=category&term=married-recent-amputecan')
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To: Cincinnatus.45-70
"Does he mean other gun control countries like Switzerland?

What a jackass communist."


Thank you for the laugh!


ps. I don't always read the articles before posting either
30 posted on 02/15/2019 9:19:49 PM PST by Garth Tater (I know what I like (*)(*)
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To: Cincinnatus.45-70

Quora is liberal claptrap first off, and second iff i have no time to read this mass of garbage.
I have a statistician on guns. His name is Dr. Lott, he is a professor who has written TWO books that show that, in America more guns mean less crime.


31 posted on 02/15/2019 9:57:51 PM PST by ZULU (Impeach John Roberts for corruption. SOROS IS "SPARTACUS" BOOKER'S LANISTA.)
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To: daniel1212
maybe that's because they don't have the same sections of society that commit rape robbery an murder out of all proportion of their numbers that we do...
32 posted on 02/15/2019 10:06:25 PM PST by Chode ( WeÂ’re America, Bitch!)
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To: Chainmail

Yes. You cannot compare the US to any other country in the world, a fact the writer actually makes, so why try.

We have unique problems, more due to a lack of strong leadership and common sense than anything else.


33 posted on 02/15/2019 11:29:54 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (with)
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To: sauropod

We ain’t the rest of the f**king world. We are The United States Of America and our Second Amendment makes all the other amendments possible. For over two hundred years We The People have had the right to keep and bear arms and for two hundred years it’s keep us free and the government in check. “When the people fear the government there is Tyranny. When the government fears the people there is Liberty’’.- Thomas Jefferson. I don’t give a f**k what the rest of the world thinks about our Second Amendment rights.


34 posted on 02/16/2019 3:07:57 AM PST by jmacusa ("The more numerous the laws the more corrupt the government''.)
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To: Cincinnatus.45-70

He did a pretty complete job dancing around the melanin component.


35 posted on 02/16/2019 5:17:39 AM PST by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: jmacusa
it’s keep us free and the government in check.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

In a tiny closet in the back of the mind of every politician whispers the Second Amendment.

36 posted on 02/16/2019 6:32:09 AM PST by wintertime (Stop treating government teachers like they are reincarnated Mother Teresas!)
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To: VTenigma

and IQ.


37 posted on 02/16/2019 6:33:03 AM PST by wintertime (Stop treating government teachers like they are reincarnated Mother Teresas!)
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To: Cincinnatus.45-70
What a jackass communist.

I know FR tradition is to not click on links, but at least read the excerpt (or some of it). You may learn that the content is opposite the title before you make jackass comments.

So, in summary, the other states of the world who pride themselves on their low gun violence stance… I’m happy for them, but I don’t think they should be patting themselves on the back so hard.
38 posted on 02/16/2019 7:28:53 AM PST by Svartalfiar
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To: daniel1212
developed nations with these laws

How many of the citizens of the developed nations have this right protected from interference by the government?

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Leftist have difficulty grasping the intent of the 2nd Amendment so a few examples might help to correctly inform them.

A well educated Public, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Books, shall not be infringed.

A well regulated Internet being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear Modems shall not be infringed.

A well regulated Carpentry being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear Hammers shall not be infringed.

39 posted on 02/16/2019 7:29:06 AM PST by MosesKnows
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
My brother in law is from Honduras and beginning in 1984, I would join him and my sister and their kids for vacation there. The only real violent crimes would be between drunken men using mostly machete's.

I had wonderful vacations there and never once thought about our safety. People were friendly and outgoing and just seemed to be happy all the time.

That's all changed now that the drug cartels have taken over........

40 posted on 02/16/2019 7:38:08 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (ui)
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