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With deep freeze still on, MN utility asks customers to turn down thermostats
Minnesota Star Tribune ^ | Jan 31, 2019 | Smith, Hughlett, and Reinan

Posted on 02/01/2019 5:40:32 AM PST by finnsheep

"The brutal cold gripping Minnesota made itself felt in tens of thousands of living rooms Wednesday as Xcel Energy resorted to asking customers to turn their thermostats down to 63 degrees to conserve natural gas.

The request to Xcel’s more than 400,000 customers came as the utility strained in the sub-zero temperatures to keep up with heating demand.

And a few Minnesotans dealt with the nightmare of having no heat at all.

About 150 homes in the Princeton area, about an hour north of Minneapolis, lost natural gas service about 10:30 p.m. Tuesday. In response, Xcel asked about 12,000 customers in nearby Becker, Big Lake, Chisago City, Lindstrom, Princeton and Isanti to turn down their thermostats to 60."

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To: BadLands59

My little 20 dollar ceramic heater added something like 40% to my electric bill.
I gave it away...i miss it.
used to keep it right under my desk keeping me toasty warm.
We pay a lot for elec here in MA.


61 posted on 02/01/2019 8:32:35 AM PST by mowowie
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To: BadLands59

Same here, although I don’t splurge on air conditioning either, keeping the house temperature at 80 or above during the summer. I do have fans in places in the house and a room a/c for the bedroom so I can sleep. We have a 2600 square foot, two-story house and there is only two of us during the weekends and only me during most of the weekdays. It doesn’t make sense to cool a large house for just one or two people.

On a side note, when I was a freshman in college we had a prolonged cold snap where for two weeks the temperature never got above 0 degrees during the day. I had a roommate from Texas who loved snow for awhile and then got tired of it. She never really got the hang of walking on slick sidewalks and in January was really sick of the cold. One day she was morosely gazing out the window and asked me whether I thought it would snow that night. I replied that it was too cold to snow and she thought I had gone off the deep end. She ended up calling her Texas family to tell them it was too cold to snow here (in Utah). This was in the early seventies and women were not allowed to wear pants to classes. Those walks across campus meant frozen knees for most of us.

In another cold snap a few years later in Idaho, December was rather dry and cold but it warmed up enough to snow on New Year’s Eve so that we had snow berms about two feet high down the middle of the town’s roadways. Then the cold socked in again and the berms slowly dehydrated and eventually just blew away. Cold is nothing new.


62 posted on 02/01/2019 8:41:59 AM PST by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: finnsheep

I’ve never heard of them making such a request before. Lived there most of my life too. It was only one friggen week! We’ve had whole months of below zero weather and never been asked or advised to turn down the thermostat, especially as low as 60. WTF are they gonna do when more typical winters befall us?


63 posted on 02/01/2019 8:42:27 AM PST by PeteePie (Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a reproach to any people - Proverbs 14:34)
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To: woodbutcher1963

NIMBY
Too bad they don’t consider that they could maybe get a cut of the action..
On a side note I LOVE NH, Exactly this time last year i was checking into the Woodstock Inn and Brewery in N. woodstock for some Superbowl action and enjoyed their nice restaurant and lounge.. serious snow the whole time and i loved it...(didn’t have to shovel it....actually i did).
This year i’m sitting in my kitchen....ugh


64 posted on 02/01/2019 8:46:06 AM PST by mowowie
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To: finnsheep

Which is why it is always a good idea to have a secondary heat source.


65 posted on 02/01/2019 8:47:30 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: 21twelve
Sounds like the infrastructure can get right up to the edge (and beyond) when it gets stressed. I suppose in order to make a profit one designs things for the “normal” use plus a safety factor of whatever

exactly correct, same for many utilities like water.

66 posted on 02/01/2019 8:48:48 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: Aya Pellerin

Global warming is still here, without it Chicago would be -43 right now.
The moonbats ignore that benefit though...
/s


67 posted on 02/01/2019 8:56:27 AM PST by mowowie
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To: mowowie

I’m waiting for them to try to change the crisis to global cooling and pretend that was the issue all along.


68 posted on 02/01/2019 9:05:04 AM PST by Aya Pellerin
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I was wondering when Jimmy would show up in his cardigan.


69 posted on 02/01/2019 9:08:31 AM PST by Kommodor (Terrorist, Journalist or Democrat? I can't tell the difference.)
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To: mylife

Lol. And I wonder if the electronics that is embedded in them wont work too. Very likely no.


70 posted on 02/01/2019 9:14:27 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: mowowie

Mass has plenty of reserves.


71 posted on 02/01/2019 9:24:13 AM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: finnsheep

Native Minniesodan here, with lots of family still htere.

In the house I grew up in, we had a coal furnace that we also burned wood in as another alternative energy source. We eventually went to an oil fired heater.. years later in a new house, a natural gas.. exclusively.

One of the problems of getting hitched to new technologies and energy sources is having a fallback if the energy source is gone.

It indeed does make you wonder how we got in this latest round of energy resource rich, domestic supply short.

How many agencies, how many companies, how many lobbyists, can we count on when it freezes and the gas runs low?

Apparently, few to any.


72 posted on 02/01/2019 9:47:55 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Monthly Donors Rock!!!)
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To: excalibur21
Oklahoma by itself has enough natural gas to run the entire country for decades.

Forty years ago I worked at a Cement Plant in Pryor Oklahoma they used Natural Gas to fire their Kilns and were required to switch to coal. Go figure.

73 posted on 02/01/2019 10:21:17 AM PST by itsahoot (Welcome to the New USA where Islam is a religion of peace and Christianity is a mental disorder.)
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To: Ozark Tom

Tom,

I am not sure why Quebec Hydro would be asking that of their customers other than that the grid maybe can not handle the peak draw. They do not have a energy generating problem. Their dams on the Saint Lawrence have excess generating capacity. It may be a distribution issue. I am not an electrical engineer, so I am only guessing. Kind of like trying to plug to many items into one outlet or circuit. You overload the circuit and you trip the breaker.
Except the breaker is not 20 amp like in your house. It may be 2 million amps and everyone in Montreal is plugging in their blow dryers at the same time.

Quebec Hydro is not like the Hoover Dam in NV/AZ where only 4 out of 14 turbines are turning because if they opened all the gates it would drain Lake Mead. There is so much water running downhill all the way from Lake Superior that only a small portion of it ends up being consumed. There is plenty left to flow into the Atlantic Ocean. Look at the watershed of the Saint Lawrence River. It is not just the Great Lakes drainage. It is most of the province of Quebec and Ontario rivers flow into the St Lawrence.

It is similar to how much water flows into the Columbia River out west. Why do you think the Chinese spent so much time and money building the Three Gorges Dam. Hydro electric power is by far the cheapest way to generate electricity.


74 posted on 02/01/2019 11:27:00 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: GreyFriar

There was no shortage of gas. There was a shortage of line pressure that the power companies were not prepared for.


75 posted on 02/01/2019 12:26:48 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (MAGA!!!)
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To: dfwgator

LOL!

I’ll bet the Democrats are the ones who couldn’t make a profit selling whiskey or running the whorehouse in Nevada the government confiscated a few years ago!


76 posted on 02/01/2019 1:44:41 PM PST by Taxman (We will never be a truly free people so long as we have the income tax and the IRS.)
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