They were oppressively authoritarian, state-owned and controlled, thieves all along.
There was never some liberal Reagan democracy over there.
IIRC these posts, such as a recent blog post claiming that the average Chinese citizens lives in a new luxury apartment tower, were posted under the Freeper name of Metallicman.
Now somehow another long-running Freeper account is taking credit for this agitprop?
Yeah, Deng knew he had to grow the economy somehow so he did what the party would let him. Tiananmen Square squashed any idea of freedom pretty effectively.
I had a discussion with another long timer, join date of1998, on that luxury house thread. They were pretty adamant that things are much better in China than we think.
I know just enough to know that is pure bunkum.
Where are the China lovers coming from? I just don’t get it.
No one is saying China is a liberal democracy. Nonetheless, in some areas, particularly economic, they enjoy more freedom than in the US, especially places like California and New York. China is particularly bad on religious freedom, and unfortunately, things seem to be trending poorly in other areas.