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Why I'm not attending any pity parties for furloughed federal workers
American Thinker ^ | 01/21/2018 | Thomas Lifson

Posted on 01/22/2019 7:59:52 AM PST by LavaDog

Call me a hard-hearted, mean-spirited conservative if you will, but I am not bleeding from the heart over the plight of most of the furloughed federal workers. While I am certain that some of them have not bothered to accumulate savings, and thus are running out of money with which to pay important bills, the rest of us in the private sector have had to live with the possibility of our incomes being cut off for our entire careers. Moreover, federal employees, especially in the lower ranges of the income scale, make out like bandits compared to the rest of us with the same skills and responsibilities.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: furlough; shutdown
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1 posted on 01/22/2019 7:59:53 AM PST by LavaDog
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I must be more “hard-hearted, mean-spirited” than him because I hope they get RIF’d.


2 posted on 01/22/2019 8:03:40 AM PST by MagnoliaB (You can't always get what you want but if you try sometime you might find, you get what you need.)
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To: LavaDog

totally agree


3 posted on 01/22/2019 8:03:45 AM PST by Dont tread and Live (waso)
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To: MagnoliaB

In fact I view them similarly to people that continue to live in California.


4 posted on 01/22/2019 8:04:41 AM PST by Dont tread and Live (waso)
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To: LavaDog

If I were a Federal employee I would set aside months payments to get me through an eventual furlough or I would seek arrangements for parttime employment during furloughs. They are given paid vacations when this happens. Some of them draw unemployment. I would turn this into something to look forward to!!!!


5 posted on 01/22/2019 8:05:04 AM PST by ontap
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https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3721635/posts


6 posted on 01/22/2019 8:11:08 AM PST by NEMDF
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To: MagnoliaB

The way everyone, Feds and non-feds in DC are reacting is disgusting. I saw no simillar sympathy as whole towns and whole industries were being wiped out thanks to federal regulations. When I would travel beyond the Beltway in ‘09-’12 in particular and see shops boarded up, I would think of parking lots at restaurants in the DC area always full. Always. Shops were busy, few closed (only certain chains). The area was virtually unaffected by what the rest of the country suffered. Feds here seemed not only unaffected, by neither did they seem to care

Federal employees have better than comparable salaries. After a year or two, they should have a decent amount of funds saved up to get through the delay of a paycheck or two. But oh, no ... local supermarkets are setting up ‘food banks’ to give them free food.


7 posted on 01/22/2019 8:11:57 AM PST by EDINVA
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Coast Guard service member families hitting the food bank.

Federal Prison guards and workers are also going unpaid.

Border guards. Air traffic controllers. Meat inspectors.

8 posted on 01/22/2019 8:13:00 AM PST by Snickering Hound
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Most federal employees have been on the job for a number of years, and are making a pretty decent salary. They should be able to ride out missing that first pay, even a second pay, especially when they know they will be getting that money back when the shutdown ends. However, a day or two after that first missed pay, there were stories about government workers standing in line at food banks, and others talking about how tough things are for them right now. Nobody likes missing a paycheck, but if they had been living within their means to begin with, this shouldn’t be a problem. Too many people in this country are living paycheck to paycheck, granted, some out of necessity, but most because they want it all now, and they’ll worry about how they’ll pay for it later.


9 posted on 01/22/2019 8:18:08 AM PST by GreenHornet
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To: EDINVA
Federal employees have better than comparable salaries. After a year or two, they should have a decent amount of funds saved up to get through the delay of a paycheck or two. But oh, no ... local supermarkets are setting up ‘food banks’ to give them free food.

Yeah, that Petty Officer 3rd class in the CG is really raking in the money.

He can just put the condo in Palm Beach on Air BnB and delay that next service on that Porsche Cayenne.

10 posted on 01/22/2019 8:22:12 AM PST by Snickering Hound
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To: Snickering Hound

They will all get paid, it is just being deferred. Enough of this “they are working for free” nonsense. I get paid twice a month, so am I working for free the other 28-29 days?

Virtually every government related credit union had a furlough related loan program at a real discount.

Agree, it sucks for now, but they are the only ones left in the country with a real pension; the rest of us have 401K’s, (How long will i live / amount in my 401k).

They have tremendous health and other benefits. They generally get paid more than their private sector counterparts for the same jobs.

Listen, what they do is admirable and tremendous. But, financially, they know what they signed up for and, over the long run, have it far better than similarly skilled private sector employees.


11 posted on 01/22/2019 8:40:34 AM PST by dan on the right
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I have no doubt between welfare offices, kind neighbors and friends and even sympathetic institutions (stores, etc.), with just a little conversation they all know that there is a future windfall payday coming.

I KNOW I would/could have the gasoline to do neccessities, the money or credit to stay alive, and be warm in the winter with the electric on.


Pay attention America;

NONE of those will be in the tabloids about becoming homeless because the homeless have chosen that (ain't nobody gonn'a tell ME how to live), whereas the furloughed workers are first and foremost AMERICAN WORKERS !

Working Americans aren't shrinkers nor quitters.

12 posted on 01/22/2019 8:42:25 AM PST by knarf
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They will all get paid, it is just being deferred. Enough of this “they are working for free” nonsense. I get paid twice a month, so am I working for free the other 28-29 days?

Border guards make on average about $65k a year.

If you have kids and a mortgage, you just can't miss many checks before you're defaulting on that mortgage and hitting the food bank.

Coast Guard enlisted and prison employees are paid much less and are already hitting food banks.

Airport terminals are already closing thanks to TSA workers that get paid $35k have already had to find other work. Entire airports will be closing soon.

But, financially, they know what they signed up for and, over the long run, have it far better than similarly skilled private sector employees.

Easy to be the internet tough guy when you're not affected.

13 posted on 01/22/2019 8:52:26 AM PST by Snickering Hound
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I posted this offer the day after Christmas, and got no takers. (Full disclosure, I have no ability to actually employ anyone)

FURLOUGHED WORKERS

Jobs available NOW in TX and CA! Wear warm clothes, comfortable shoes, and hard hat if you have one.

What, you don't want the job? Then STFU and stop whining

14 posted on 01/22/2019 8:52:47 AM PST by ZOOKER (Until further notice the /s is implied...)
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I’d be happy to feel sorry for them if most of them got RIF’d.


15 posted on 01/22/2019 9:03:48 AM PST by budj (combat vet, 2nd of 3 generations)
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To: LavaDog

Back in the early seventies, the Army changed their finance system from a manual system managed by the local finance office to an automated centralized system. The roll out was totally screwed up.

No one was paid for months and some went almost a year without a regular paycheck. At least in Europe, the EM continued to be paid, in cash, through casual payments which caused problems when it had to be reconciled because some had been overpaid.

For officers, there were no casual payments. Most had check to bank options, but those checks stopped coming. I was fortunate, my bank was Army National Bank in Leavenworth. They told their customers to keep writing checks to the usual monthly amount, essentially an interest free loan. Some did not have a bank that was so agreeable and they had big financial issues. Credit cards were rare in those days, especially in Europe and in the post Vietnam era, loans to soldiers were problematic, even for officers. I had a friend who wasn’t paid for over six months. He borrowed what he could, sold as many assets as he put his hands on and they got a lot of invitations to dinner.

You can love big government, but it will never love you back. For the reasons reflected in the charts, every government job opening receives many applicants. It’s a good gig, no crocodile tears from here.


16 posted on 01/22/2019 9:04:58 AM PST by centurion316
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Plenty of banks and credit unions out there are giving low interest loans to these workers to get them by as well.
Beyond not working, it isn’t a big impact.
(I know a couple people)


17 posted on 01/22/2019 9:09:08 AM PST by vpintheak (Freedom is not equality; and equality is not freedom!)
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There are numerous options for those furloughed.

Check any bank web site - at the top is asks if you are furloughed and have a mortgage with them. All the institutions get it - people will get paid and make everyone hole. One just has to take advantage of their offers. Money is there to borrow and late payments are tolerated.

TSA reported as did USA Today (liberal) this weekend that lines were generally under 15 minutes with 10% calling in sick. Not awful.

Again, am very sympathetic; but it is not nearly as bad as those in DC would want us to believe.

A late check is better then being dead at the hands of an illegal immigrant and never getting a check again.

Ask the Angel moms. Deaths and injury at the hands of illegal immigrants is not being nearly as hyped as the effects of the shutdown. If you watch MSM, you don’t even know it is out there.

End the shutdown- Democrats just have to agree to what they supported wholeheartedly just 10 years ago - border security. “A wall doesn’t work!” Really? Are we that gullible?


18 posted on 01/22/2019 9:31:20 AM PST by dan on the right
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To: Snickering Hound

Service providing contractors to the government are not working, are not furloughed, are not getting paid, nor will they ever recoup the time they missed because of the shutdown.

Service providers do things like Building Maintenance, building management, grounds & Public Works, utilities, and a myriad of other jobs that are infrastructure related to government operations. I know several and they’re stretching it kind of thin right now but they do want a wall.


19 posted on 01/22/2019 9:38:59 AM PST by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed it wright.)
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To: dan on the right
Check any bank web site - at the top is asks if you are furloughed and have a mortgage with them. All the institutions get it - people will get paid and make everyone hole. One just has to take advantage of their offers. Money is there to borrow and late payments are tolerated.

These days your mortgage has been bundled and sold several times and a call to customer support after your finally track them down will go to 'Sara' in Bangalore India where your request for deferment will get lost in the system.

A late check is better then being dead at the hands of an illegal immigrant and never getting a check again.

I'm just not seeing how this standoff ends anytime soon.

Pelosi and the democrats are as far from the voters as they will ever be and are in fund raising mode from donors that are universally against a Wall.

Airport workers, border guards and prison workers will have to find other work. Interesting times when that really kicks in.

20 posted on 01/22/2019 9:46:10 AM PST by Snickering Hound
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