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To: Mr Rogers

You left out a word in Vattel’s legal treatise definition of “natural born Citizen” — naturels. Naturels was a term translated in treaty negotiating letters in French to the founders which they translated to American English as “natural born” ... and after which Vattel clearly defined who the “naturels” were in his Natural Law treatise ... children born in the country of parents who were citizens. I think you did that on purpose. Hmmh, wonder why ... Convenient omissions in the arguments to down play the influence of Vattel’s writings on the founders and framers contemporaneously with the American Revolution. Read these articles for more historical and contemporary legal treatise sources of the meaning and understanding of the constitutional presidential and commander in chief eligibility requirement - “natural born Citizen”: https://www.scribd.com/user/52640192/protectourliberty/lists


12 posted on 01/16/2019 7:35:46 PM PST by CDR Kerchner (natural born Citizen, natural law, Emer de Vattel, naturels, presidential, eligibility)
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To: CDR Kerchner

Direct list to the collection of historical and other articles on the intent, meaning, and understanding of the term “natural born Citizen” as it was used by the founders and framers: https://www.scribd.com/lists/3301209/Papers-Discussing-Natural-Born-Citizen-Meaning-to-Constitutional-Standards


13 posted on 01/16/2019 7:38:03 PM PST by CDR Kerchner (natural born Citizen, natural law, Emer de Vattel, naturels, presidential, eligibility)
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To: CDR Kerchner; Mr Rogers

Mr rogers is the longest serving after-birther troll ever. He needs a medal or something /s


26 posted on 01/16/2019 7:53:07 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (Cocked, locked and ready to ROCK!)
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To: CDR Kerchner

“You left out a word in Vattel’s legal treatise definition of “natural born Citizen” — naturels.”

The French: “Les Naturels ou indigenes font ceux qui font nes dans le pays de Parens Citoyens.”

The 1797 translation on which you store all your hopes:

“The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens...”

Translations available in America at the time the Constitution was written had it, “The natives, or indigenes, are those born in the country of parents who are citizens.”

Your birther beliefs just do not match reality. While the writers of the Constitution were still alive, it was acknowledged that NBC was an update to the very common legal phrase, known to every founder and used all the time, “natural born subject”.

And REGARDLESS of your fantasies, the FACT that Obama was President of the USA for 8 years doesn’t leave much room for argument. You had 8 YEARS to make your case and NO ONE CARED. You are a fruitcake and make conservatives look like nuts. I don’t care how many COURTS ignore your rantings, but you make it harder for conservatives to get elected with your lunatic ravings. Even Vattel, if he could come back from the grave, would think you a nut.


69 posted on 01/17/2019 10:00:09 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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