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To: Mikemurphy
Women should not be on ships!!

Have you read the story? Based on that men shouldn't be on ships.

"Fort determined that Fitz’s crew was plagued by low morale; overseen by a dysfunctional chiefs mess; and dogged by a bruising tempo of operations in the Japan-based 7th Fleet that left exhausted sailors with little time to train or complete critical certifications..."

"...they also appeared to be led by officers who appeared indifferent to potentially life-saving lessons that should’ve been learned from other near-misses at sea, including a similar incident near Sasebo, Japan, that occurred only five weeks before the ACX Crystal collision..."

"FTZ’s command leadership was unaware of just how far below standards their command had drifted,” wrote Fort, a surface warfare officer with more than a quarter-century of experience. “Had the (commanding officer) and (executive officer) critiqued the near-collision, they may have identified the root causes uncovered by this investigation."

"But Fort’s investigation pointed to a disturbing pattern of watchstanders failing to follow standing orders from a skipper and XO who often were inexplicably absent from the bridge, even when the warship was transiting potentially dangerous waters at night."

"Benson and predecessor Shu spent little time on the bridge during nighttime transits and Benson was asleep in his quarters on the fateful night the Fitzgerald collided with the ACX Crystal, Fort wrote.

10 posted on 01/15/2019 1:33:56 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

And all of those things come back to women in the fleet. Do you have any idea how much time and effort is spent of sensitivity training, EEOC training, homo training? etc.

Not only did this soak up valuable training time, it caused a mentality where no superior officer dares offer the slightest discipline or correction to a female subordinate officer. Then this attitude trickles down as they do not demand anything more from their subordinates. In addition, women are promoted beyond their capability for political/sexual reasons.

And then of course, senior enlisteds leave the minute they can, they guys who used to make things run.

And then you have a ship with kettle bells and bottles of piss, broken and canibalized equipment, and OOD who have personality conflicts with others as they navigate Tokyo Bay shipping lanes at night.


15 posted on 01/15/2019 2:04:30 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: DoodleDawg

Have you read the story? Based on that men shouldn’t be on ships.”

Feminized men. In the pre girl Navy only men were on the ships, the enviroment was a a proper meritocracy and things ran well. The meritocracy is the first thing that went out when the girls came in, on account of the fact that if it didn’t the girls couldn’t hack it. How far would any WWII admiral get in today’s navy? He wouldn’t survive, period.


16 posted on 01/15/2019 2:09:12 PM PST by TalBlack (It's hard to shoot people when they are shooting back at you...)
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