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To: refreshed

Christ never once mentioned hell. He did use Gehenna as an allegory or analogy, though. He did that a lot.

Hell is a made up word and means different things to different Christians. For the most part it means death/hades/sheol.


17 posted on 01/15/2019 7:15:11 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: cuban leaf

The Holy Spirit declares:

“It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.”

Hebrews 10:31

If there is NO hell......then why does the Holy Spirit warn us that it is a FEARFUL thing to fall into God hands?

No one will repent in hell. Its to late. Forever.

Listen to the message cubanleaf....take Gods warning. Understand that is love and grace are tied eternally into His Judgement.


19 posted on 01/15/2019 7:18:12 AM PST by RevelationDavid (Jesus First, no matter the cost.)
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To: cuban leaf
Well, yeah. None of the words in our Bibles were used by Christ - it's in a different language. But the concepts are common.

and Yes, I agree that "hell" meant "sheol" to Jewish thinking, meaning the grave, or a compartment for the souls of dead people who are temporarily awaiting a final disposition. That's made clear in Jesus' parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus. The two are conversing, so there seem to be two compartments in "hell," one for the damned, or unredeemed, and one for those who are destined for future resurrection.

31 posted on 01/15/2019 7:27:39 AM PST by fwdude (Forget the Catechism, the RCC's real doctrine is what it allows with impunity.)
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To: cuban leaf

The grave isn’t fiery. And yet hell is referred to as such many times. It is also referred to as being eternal punishment.

Mat 5:22  But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

Mat 5:29  And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

Mat 5:30  And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

Mat 10:28  And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

Mat 11:23  And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted unto heaven, shalt be brought down to hell: for if the mighty works, which have been done in thee, had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day.

Mat 16:18  And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

Mat 18:9  And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.

Mat 23:15  Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

Mat 23:33  Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

Mar 9:43  And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:

Mar 9:45  And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:

Mar 9:47  And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:

Luk 10:15  And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted to heaven, shalt be thrust down to hell.

Luk 12:5  But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.

Luk 16:23  And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

Act 2:27  Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

Act 2:31  He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.

Jas 3:6  And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell.

2Pe 2:4  For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

Rev 1:18  I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

Rev 6:8  And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.

Rev 20:13  And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

Rev 20:14  And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

This is every verse that speaks of hell in the New Testament. This is my final authority. For all matters. We can let people decide for themselves. What is your final authority on this matter? Can you honestly say all of these references are to the grave? You would have to shoehorn the definition and allegorize greatly.


35 posted on 01/15/2019 7:30:02 AM PST by refreshed (But we preach Christ crucified... 1 Corinthians 1:23)
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To: cuban leaf
Luk 16:19-24  “There was a rich man who was clothed in purple and fine linen and who feasted sumptuously every day.  And at his gate was laid a poor man named Lazarus, covered with sores,  who desired to be fed with what fell from the rich man's table. Moreover, even the dogs came and licked his sores.  The poor man died and was carried by the angels to Abraham's side. The rich man also died and was buried, and in Hades, being in torment, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham far off and Lazarus at his side.  And he called out, ‘Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus to dip the end of his finger in water and cool my tongue, for I am in anguish in this flame.’ 

Christ talked about the rich ruler and Lazarus. He did not paint a very plesant picture of where the rich ruler would spend eternity. As far as what it means to different "Christians", it is immaterial. Christians can have some pretty wacky ideas and very little has to do with scripture. Hades is hell. Can't be any clearer no matter how one wants to parse the words.

There is not a more loving act then God sending His Son to suffer and die for us. There is not a more unkind act then to reject God's offer.

58 posted on 01/15/2019 8:53:15 AM PST by HarleyD
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