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To: cuban leaf
Let us see; God created us as a representation of His own function. Disobedience, haughtiness, and pride mess that up quite a bit. As a Primary Source, God as every right to exercise discretion. Read Job and there is this:

"As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.

For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.

So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.

For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.

Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.

Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?

Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?

Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?

What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:

And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,

Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?"

God JUDGES righteously, Praise the Lord. Some do not have volition such as the mentally ill, babies, those who never heard of "the Law", God's will like the Pharoah He uses and Blesses, however, most have volition.

You come from that ignorant and entitled position of the likes of Bertrand Russell who ignored what a Primary Source is (I AM) and how the Secondary Source should respect that.

Christ is the bridge that acts as a solder that acts as a graft to repair the damage in the relationship between I AM and man (Who thinks they are I AM).

Who are you to deny God's discretion?

We are of limited intellect compared to God, however, Scripture points out how God does/commands certain ways we find repulsive. Do you find God commanding killing babies, women, children, and men monstrous? He commanded that several times, the same way He easily judges the secondary source who opposes His will as well uses discretion upon those who we think are unrighteous.
124 posted on 01/17/2019 5:55:55 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: rollo tomasi

Yes, I turned from ECT nine years ago. I’ve done even more reading on the subject since. All of what you said I’ve come across before in one form or another.

No need to “re-argue” for me. Just go to http://jewishnotgreek.com/

It’s all covered there.

Also, an excellent book on the subject: https://www.amazon.com/Fire-That-Consumes-Historical-Punishment/dp/1608999300/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1547907311&sr=8-1&keywords=fire+that+consumes


127 posted on 01/19/2019 6:15:43 AM PST by cuban leaf
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