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To: adorno

Still waiting for you to reveal which EV you drive...


155 posted on 01/12/2019 6:19:48 AM PST by dinodino
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To: dinodino
Still waiting for you to reveal which EV you drive...

Nope! That's not the way things work.

It's like asking me which helicopter I fly. I don't need to fly a helicopter to know what I don't personally want one.

However, each time I've bought a new car in the last 10 or so years, I've test-driven the available EVs on the dealer lots, including those from Ford and Honda and Chevrolet. They all drove nicely and quietly. Heck, I even test-drove their hybrids. which were very nice too.

But, I'll let you in on a secret. Each one of those dealers had a bunch of returned EVs which people gave up on after a few weeks or months, and there were a lot more EVs traded-in for ICE vehicles. I asked the salespeople why there were so many used or returned EVs and hybrids, and they refused to tell me any reasons, but most of those salespeople would only go as far as telling me to forget the EV side and perhaps get a hybrid, but to be very cautious about hybrids too. However, I've known a couple of people who have owned EVs and they told me that they wouldn't do it again, and that they're more dependent on their primary vehicles which are ICE driven. A bunch of hybrid owners that I know have told me that they're actually happy with their purchase, but then, all of them have made sure that they also have ICE vehicles in their households.

So, basically, I don't see where having to own something is mandatory before making a decision on anything. I do listen to the experiences of others and then make the appropriate decision; but then, I also have to see and experience for myself, which is why always ended up with my 2 ICE SUVS in the last 10 years. I'm getting ready to trade one of them in, in the next few months, and, I'm leaning towards a hybrid; perhaps an Explorer hybrid.

BTW, I also read extensively about EVs and, surprise!!!, I'm not the only one with the kind of opinions I have about EVs.

BTW, there is one correction I need to make in my prior post regarding agreeing with you on the most expensive component on an ICE car. The most expensive component on ICE cars, at least most that I've known, is the transmission. I know that from personal experience and from most mechanics that I've ever dealt with.

Another point regarding ICE engines: I've never had to get any of my cars' engines rebuilt, and I've driven a couple of them past the 150,000 mark. When it comes to vehicles for my wife, I don't ever let them go past 70,000; not gonna take any chances on them ever breaking down on the road; not that they needed to be replaced; just not taking any chances. Which then leads me to one of the reasons for not driving or owning EVs; not gonna take any chances of running out of a charge and not being able to get road service. BTW, other than the whatever road service there might be from the EV manufacturer or dealer, how is the road service(s) from towing services like AAA and others?
165 posted on 01/13/2019 6:02:06 AM PST by adorno
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To: dinodino
Still waiting for you to reveal which EV you drive...

Nope! That's not the way things work.

It's like asking me which helicopter I fly. I don't need to fly a helicopter to know what I don't personally want one.

However, each time I've bought a new car in the last 10 or so years, I've test-driven the available EVs on the dealer lots, including those from Ford and Honda and Chevrolet. They all drove nicely and quietly. Heck, I even test-drove their hybrids. which were very nice too.

But, I'll let you in on a secret. Each one of those dealers had a bunch of returned EVs which people gave up on after a few weeks or months, and there were a lot more EVs traded-in for ICE vehicles. I asked the salespeople why there were so many used or returned EVs and hybrids, and they refused to tell me any reasons, but most of those salespeople would only go as far as telling me to forget the EV side and perhaps get a hybrid, but to be very cautious about hybrids too. However, I've known a couple of people who have owned EVs and they told me that they wouldn't do it again, and that they're more dependent on their primary vehicles which are ICE driven. A bunch of hybrid owners that I know have told me that they're actually happy with their purchase, but then, all of them have made sure that they also have ICE vehicles in their households.

So, basically, I don't see where having to own something is mandatory before making a decision on anything. I do listen to the experiences of others and then make the appropriate decision; but then, I also have to see and experience for myself, which is why always ended up with my 2 ICE SUVS in the last 10 years. I'm getting ready to trade one of them in, in the next few months, and, I'm leaning towards a hybrid; perhaps an Explorer hybrid.

BTW, I also read extensively about EVs and, surprise!!!, I'm not the only one with the kind of opinions I have about EVs.

BTW, there is one correction I need to make in my prior post regarding agreeing with you on the most expensive component on an ICE car. The most expensive component on ICE cars, at least most that I've known, is the transmission. I know that from personal experience and from most mechanics that I've ever dealt with.

Another point regarding ICE engines: I've never had to get any of my cars' engines rebuilt, and I've driven a couple of them past the 150,000 mark. When it comes to vehicles for my wife, I don't ever let them go past 70,000; not gonna take any chances on them ever breaking down on the road; not that they needed to be replaced; just not taking any chances. Which then leads me to one of the reasons for not driving or owning EVs; not gonna take any chances of running out of a charge and not being able to get road service. BTW, other than the whatever road service there might be from the EV manufacturer or dealer, how is the road service(s) from towing services like AAA and others?
166 posted on 01/13/2019 6:02:09 AM PST by adorno
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