European court rejects German couple’s home-schooling appeal

Associated Press ^ | January 10, 2019 | David Rising

[Olog-hai]

The European Court of Human Rights on Thursday rejected the appeal of a German couple who have been fighting for years to home school their kids, saying the government was within its rights to temporarily remove their children.

Home schooling is illegal in Germany and the Strasbourg, France-based court noted it had already upheld that law in previous decisions.

But Dirk and Petra Wunderlich, who are in their early 50s, had argued their rights to privacy of home and family life were violated by Hesse state authorities when their four children were taken from them in 2013. They were returned three weeks later after the couple agreed to send them to school.

In a unanimous decision, however, the court found that there “were ‘relevant and sufficient’ reasons for the withdrawal of some parts of the parents’ authority, and the temporary removal of the children from their family home.”

Robert Clarke, an attorney for the Alliance Defending Freedom, or ADF, a U.S.-based Christian legal advocacy group, who argued the Wunderlichs’ case, said the Darmstadt couple was considering an appeal. …

[C19fan]

Home schooling is illegal in Germany

Based on a law passed during the Nazi era.

[CondorFlight]

Coming soon to the USA...

[sparklite2]

IIRC, the courts also forbade the parents from taking the children out of the country. The Soviet Union didn’t die, it just moved to Brussels.

[sparklite2]

Coming soon to the USA...

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They’ll have to get in line.
We’re still waiting for the Enlightenment.

[Olog-hai]

Socialism is socialism, whether “national” or international.

[mrmeyer]

They better be up to date with their life insurance policy if they are feeling froggy enough to try that shit here

[I want the USA back]

Why is there a European Court of Human Rights? Each individual country has courts.

[Olog-hai]

All of the EU treaties going back to the 1957 Treaty of Rome have stated “respect for the principles of the Charter of the United Nations”, so they create their mini-versions of UN travesties to lord it over the EU member states (except one).

[pepsionice]

Actually, compulsory and free education to the 8th grade in Germany....dates back to the Prussian government period 1870s-1919. The Nazis did a lot of stuff....but this one (like a number of gun laws) were already on the books before they showed up in 1930.

[Olog-hai]

Lots of commonality between national socialism and Bismarckian state socialism; Adolf even adopted the term “state socialism” (as Reagan pointed out in 1960, comparing JFK’s original economic program to it), and Woodrow Wilson was familiar with that term.

“The thesis of the state socialist is that no line may be drawn between private and public affairs which the state may not cross at will; that omnipotence of legislation is the first postulate of all just political theory.”

— Socialism and Democracy, 1887

The Wunderlichs are again victims of this anti-family, anti-freedom outlook.

[nathanbedford]

If memory serves, and it very well may not, this case was litigated through the German courts with the same result so the couple is rationally appealing to the next venue.

I remember the last time this issue came up it was explicitly stated that the purpose of the mandatory school attendance and the verbot against homeschooling was to assure the homogenization of the children. In other words, it is the function of the school system to indoctrinate kids.

This attitude was quite evident within my neighbors in 2015 at the time of the influx of the huge caravan of refugees. Nearly all the locals assumed that six century Muslims could be educated into 21st-century Germans. We shall see. Whatever the outcome, the reliance on education to bridge the culture gap that exists between these two groups tells us all we need to know about the deep optimism concerning the efficacy of education.

Compare that with the Christian perspective that all men are not created good but are inherently fallen in need of redemption rather than education, and one begins to see where and why the twain is ever widening.