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The Sopranos is still the greatest television show of all time – this new 20th anniversary[tr]
Globe and Mail ^ | 1/9/2019 | Barry Hertz

Posted on 01/09/2019 4:58:33 AM PST by simpson96

For the longest time, I’ve considered myself a Sopranos superfan. Perhaps THE Sopranos superfan.

As a teenager, I followed the New Jersey mafia drama since its debut 20 years ago this week – Jan. 10, 1999 – often employing illegal online file-sharing services to download the episodes, as my parents wouldn’t fork over the money to subscribe to the Movie Network (Canada’s HBO equivalent) so a 16-year-old could learn about the subtle art of “waste management.” In the years since creator David Chase inflamed America with his infamous cut-to-black series finale, I’ve rewatched my precious Sopranos DVD box-sets over and over (last count: nine full-series revisits … maybe 10). And in 2013, a month after the death of star James Gandolfini, I organized what I thought was a supercool Sopranos trivia night at a downtown Toronto bar. Nine rounds of questions, worth 100 points, including a section on the show’s gangster-spouted malapropisms (Sample: Which character says, “Create a little dysentery among the ranks”?). I think four people attended.

But my fandom pales in comparison to the veritable Rhodes Scholars of Sopranos Studies, television critics Alan Sepinwall and Matt Zoller Seitz.

(snip...) the pair have reunited to write The Sopranos Sessions, a 20th-anniversary analysis of what they rightly call the greatest and most influential series in television history.

The massive book, which arrives this week, not only offers deep-dive essays on every single one of the series' 86 episodes (including copious David Foster Wallace-esque footnotes), but also includes an intense, insightful multichapter interview with the usually press-shy Chase. What’s more: Chase finally clarifies the ending. Sort of.(snip)

“It was because of The Sopranos that you got The Wire, Deadwood, Breaking Bad, Sons of Anarchy, The Walking Dead, Game of Thrones and on and on and on,” says Zoller Seitz.

(Excerpt) Read more at theglobeandmail.com ...


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To: CaptainK

Never watched the Sopranos. I recently binged Six Feet Under. Darn good show!


41 posted on 01/09/2019 6:30:56 AM PST by sheana
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To: Eddie01

Adam Arkin is Hilarious
in Northern Exposure.


42 posted on 01/09/2019 6:31:20 AM PST by Big Red Badger (Despised by the Despicable!)
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To: simpson96

I never saw it once, although I did chat quite a few times with old people in a largely Italian-American community a few decades ago. They only had negative things to say about gangsters, and the accounts they shared were saddening. They were angry that gangsters were being glamorized by Hollywood.


43 posted on 01/09/2019 6:32:45 AM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: simpson96
Seasons 1-4 of "The Wire" were the best TV drama I've ever seen. Season 5 was not nearly up to the caliber of the previous seasons, and it was obvious the show had run out of ideas, but at it's peak, I think it was the best.

"The Sopranos" ran out of ideas a lot faster than "The Wire". It was also a great show and James Gandolfini was brilliant, but I got tired of the recycling of mob stories or dramatic stories we've seen elsewhere recycled in a mob context by "The Sopranos". Each season we'd get some irritating underling of Tony's who he would eventually need to see removed - Richie Aprile, Ralph Cifaretto, Tony Blundetto. Joe Pantoliano as Ralph was terrific - the show never had a problem casting great actors - but he was pointlessly killed off, so the show could recycle his character with a different name and a different actor (Steve Buscemi).
44 posted on 01/09/2019 6:33:49 AM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Sybeck1

It’s a fair question. However, we saw the head shot, because there was a blood spray. Obviously not immediately fatal, but had to be gravely injured. As far as “best”, it’s comparing apples and oranges. You like different shows for different reasons. If they’re both well done, how can you compare, say, Mad Men to Sopranos? That said, Sopranos was
My favorite until I saw Breaking Bad


45 posted on 01/09/2019 6:46:07 AM PST by j.havenfarm ( 1,500 posts as of 8/10/18. A FReeper since 2000; never shutting up!)
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To: sheana

I binged on 6FU back in 1999. I brought VHS tapes from an ebayer.


46 posted on 01/09/2019 7:02:13 AM PST by CaptainK ('No collusion, no obstruction, he's a leaker')
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To: simpson96

I never could understand why Hollywood loved this turdburger so much.


47 posted on 01/09/2019 7:19:47 AM PST by dangus ("The floor of Hell is paved with the skulls of bishops" -- St. Athanasius)
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To: wardaddy

My memory goes back to the 1970s, when every street was cluttered with trash, and every creek looked like a dumping ground.


48 posted on 01/09/2019 7:24:32 AM PST by dangus ("The floor of Hell is paved with the skulls of bishops" -- St. Athanasius)
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To: simpson96
"What’s more: Chase finally clarifies the ending. Sort of.(snip)"

Say what? There's someone out there somewhere who needs to have that ending explained to them? Or maybe there's more than one ending that was shown here or there at some time or another?

The ending that I saw was not open-ended at all.

49 posted on 01/09/2019 7:28:02 AM PST by OKSooner (Whatever happened to, "The midterms are safe."?)
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To: simpson96

Nah. Firefly was the best TV series. It just didn’t last very long.


50 posted on 01/09/2019 7:29:13 AM PST by GingisK
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To: j.havenfarm

I agree. The Sopranos was a fine series and the acting was superb, but Breaking Bad is the best TV series of this type I have ever seen (and I’ve been at least an occasional TV viewer since 1953).


51 posted on 01/09/2019 7:30:57 AM PST by glennaro
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To: God luvs America

Growing-up in Pittsburgh I found the series had a WAY too familiar feel.

This is a pretty mobbed-up town. And for what its worth I had Italian-American friends who actually bragged about their relatives who were “made”.

Just sayin’.


52 posted on 01/09/2019 7:31:06 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: yesthatjallen
"Does good win over evil anymore? Or does evil simply become more evil and all-encompassing? "

But all through the whole series, all of Tony's crime "family" were shown to be despicable characters, and in the end Tony met his demise as the reward of his own criminality - along with his wife and their kids.

That wasn't clear enough?

53 posted on 01/09/2019 7:42:26 AM PST by OKSooner (Whatever happened to, "The midterms are safe."?)
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To: Big Red Badger

54 posted on 01/09/2019 8:04:31 AM PST by Eddie01
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To: dangus

You must have been a different place than me


55 posted on 01/09/2019 8:08:39 AM PST by wardaddy (I don’t care that you’re not a racist......when the shooting starts it won’t matter what yo)
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To: MayflowerMadam

Thanks, I’ll look for it.

However the 90s cast was once in a life time, so I’m skeptical a remake could ever recapture the charm.

I ordered the complete Norther Exposure series three weeks ago. :)


56 posted on 01/09/2019 8:17:20 AM PST by Eddie01
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To: GingisK

I used to love Firefly until I found out Fillion and Whedon were complete scumbags. To tell the truth, I would have to say I find myself watching Netflix or Prime eps of Deep Space 9 or Babylon 5 the most although GoT is awesome right now.


57 posted on 01/09/2019 8:21:33 AM PST by Raymann
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To: Eddie01

Entire Series are Pricey!
Why?


58 posted on 01/09/2019 8:24:51 AM PST by Big Red Badger (Despised by the Despicable!)
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To: Big Red Badger

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Northern-Exposure-The-Complete-Series-Seasons-1-6-DVD-26-Disc-Box-Set-NEW/303016517129?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

$22

I have never seen reruns of Norther Exposure since it went off the air anywhere, so...


59 posted on 01/09/2019 8:29:46 AM PST by Eddie01
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To: wardaddy

Yeah... the NY-NJ metro area.


60 posted on 01/09/2019 8:41:48 AM PST by dangus ("The floor of Hell is paved with the skulls of bishops" -- St. Athanasius)
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