In the NYTs?! There has to be an ulterior motive with this article.
Too funny. Happens all the time, especially lesbian women. I know 5 who used to be gay, 3 of them diehard, man haters. No religion involved. They “just got over it.” Some married now, with kids.
Men largely become gay due to grooming and molestation early. Heck, the Alter Boys are the farm team for gay priests. I’ve seen it happen, growing up in a catholic church.
Women, not so much grooming. Maybe molestation, but usually the father or close male relative. Some do it as a fad. Some are just nuts.
I feel for the people that are shamed into thinking they can’t change. Homosexuality is a rejection of ‘self’ and your core identity is your gender. Therefore you reject your gender.
If the central defining point of my existence were that I like women (I'm a man, who likes women) and I made my entire life about that, I would have a severely hollow life and I would probably waste the entire thing complaining and self-fascinated with how people regarded my attraction to women.
In other words, whether you are experiencing yourself as gay or straight or some rainbowy continuum thing ... YOU ARE IN TROUBLE ... if it's so important to you that you consider it 'what I am.'
You might as well say 'who you are' is defined by how much snot comes out of your nose, and what exact color, when you sneeze.
I don't really have an opinion about the Godlessness or Godfulness of people who are gay. But anyone who finds this aspect of themselves, a bodily and worldly attraction, to be their central defining characteristic, is probably going to have a difficult time experiencing God. You have the get the 'I AM' of life correct before you can get the soul IN FACT connected to anything.
End of rant, back to work.
Homosexuality is a behavior.
Behaviors are complex, we are not amoebas. But all behaviors can be modified.
Science can’t “prove” if the homo guy is changed or not changed to hetero. just like it can’t prove that one can be a woman trapped in a male body. How can science prove “states of mind”?
The best we have is observed changes of behavior and attitudes. I’m glad for the man that God has freed him from his abhorrent behavior and is living a righteous life! Any detractors including judgmental skeptical freepers should let it go and just accept it that God does convert and change people...more so than what ever gets reported! Paul spoke of those who wouldn’t see heaven and used this phrase...”as were some of you...”(which included former homos, adulterers, fornicators, thieves, sorcerers, drunkards....the whole...shall we say “sinful rainbow” who had been converted and washed clean by the blood of the lamb). The man might face some temptations as he is still has to contend with the flesh...so will the rest of us!
At 58 his sexual urges have diminished. Shocking.
You know what gay dudes, knock yourselves out. Just keep that bleep among yourselves and quit shoving your agenda in front of my face. I bet I’m not alone in being sick and tired of this very, very small minority of the population dominating so much of public discourse these days.
This article says ‘scientists say’ where it should say ‘homosexual advocates say’. The homosexuals want conversion therapy banned because they know in some cases it works and that makes them feel bad.
Interesting that they never condemn anyone for *coming out*, but when they want they want to become straight, it's *impossible*, and coerced.
As George Costanza said in his famous pick up line, “I’m a lesbian trapped in a man’s body” .
Very interesting and informative.
I’d say that was a pretty even-handed article, so good on the NYT and thanks for sharing it.
“something most scientists say”
Again with the “most scientists say”.
NYT simply makes things up.
“Mr. Smith is one of thousands of men across the country, often known as “ex-gay,” who believe they have changed their most basic sexual desires through some combination of therapy and prayer — something most scientists say has never been proved possible and is likely an illusion.”
No bias here. Notice how the actual experience of Mr. Smith is not good enough for the NYT. Pay attention how they trot out vague “most scientists” to challenge what Mr. Smith knows is true. Now let’s count the weasel words and phrases.
“Often known as “ex-gay”..”
“Who believe”
“Most scientists”
“Never proved”
“Most likely an illusion.”
Most basic sexual desires”
All of these are deliberate attempts by the writer to cast doubt on what Mr. Smith has personally experienced. Not just claimed to have-like being beamed aboard a UFO- but verified. As in he is now attracted to women. This is not journalism it is an opinion piece that sneers at the whole notion that sexual desire can change and even be suppressed.
Telling young men with same sex leanings that it’s permanent and can’t be changed is one of the cruelest, deadliest lies ever told. How many lives have been ruined because they thought they were facing a lifetime of getting boinked up the butt by thousands of different, anonymous men? Every state legislator and governor that has voted for outlawing therapy should be arrested and charged with murder. The agenda uber alles!