You have no idea what my life has been like but you like pretending that you do. Enjoy your fantasies.
If you say something never happened, even one incident of it happening would not be anecdotal, but a solid refutation.
However, its far more than one incident, and it is not as though there were not a vast sea of available situations to be studied provided one is not predisposed to reject both the happenings out of hand.
Go to a few AA or NA meetings across the country and see what you here.
You made allegations about the veracity of my knowledge, and turned things personal. It’s a bit obtuse of you te be angry that not only did that approach not work but it was answered in kind.