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A court reporter shortage: Critical field faces lack of new recruits
The Dispatch ^ | 12/14/2018 | Slim Smith

Posted on 12/14/2018 9:24:25 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 12/14/2018 9:24:25 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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MORE FROM THE NEW YORK DAILY NEWS:

Court reporting makes comeback as more legal proceedings demand human touch


2 posted on 12/14/2018 9:26:03 AM PST by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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I was a court reporter for ten years. The job satisfaction wasn’t all that great for me, but some other facets sort of made up for that. I quit five years ago.

Love my new job.


3 posted on 12/14/2018 9:29:00 AM PST by FoxInSocks ("Hope is not a course of action." -- M. O'Neal, USMC)
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Sounds like the pay should go up a little bit.

Maybe a percentage of the lawsuit win or lose would get some applicants.


4 posted on 12/14/2018 9:30:09 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (All I know is what I read in the papers.)
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With ubiquitous cameras and recording devices, why are they even necessary nowadays?

They seem to be an anachronism..................


5 posted on 12/14/2018 9:30:58 AM PST by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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Pay more, be willing to train more, and/or automate.


6 posted on 12/14/2018 9:31:46 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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Court reporter shortage impacts trials, hearings

Texas court reporter shortage threatens to delay hearings

How a shortage of critical employees is costing South Carolina’s court system

South Dakota Court Reporter Shortage

As court reporters age, demand for replacements is high


7 posted on 12/14/2018 9:32:20 AM PST by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Sounds like the pay should go up a little bit.


Court reporter pay has not kept pace with other skills over the last 20 years. There are about five super mega firms who are making contracts with big companies which cover the complete nation. The insurance companies, Burlington Northern, the banks, etcetera, sign these contracts and control the prices. The mom and pop freelance firms are being mowed down like the small grocers and hardware stores who lost markets to Walmart and Home Depot.

Young people with finger dexterity are entering the tech fields where they have more likelihood of improved income over the course of their careers.

It is a sad fact and skilled court reporters are not so easily replaced as store clerks when the prices are gouged by the big guys.


8 posted on 12/14/2018 9:38:13 AM PST by angry elephant (My MAGA cap is from a rally in Washingon state in May 2016)
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To: SeekAndFind

I have a friend who does this. She tells me that she basically has to detach part of herself in order to do her job, since she works in family court.

I think she enjoys the work but I wouldn’t say that it’s a terribly high-paying job. I don’t think it’s something I would enjoy, myself.


9 posted on 12/14/2018 9:42:46 AM PST by susannah59
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Court reporters are not an anachronism. Compared to reading a transcript, watching a video or, even worse, listening to a recording, is very time consuming. Once there’s a transcript, it can be visually searched for particular passages and, even more important, it can be digitally searched for key words and phrases. Then it’s possible to prepare a list of vital excerpts. In a complex case involving many parties or events, a transcript can be searched to show connections and interactions, then indexed. If there’s a dispute about the accuracy of a transcript, it’s also possible to go back to a recording.


10 posted on 12/14/2018 9:47:50 AM PST by libstripper
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To: SeekAndFind

My aunt worked as a court reporter until she was 85. She would sometimes hire college students to help her type up the court records (years before computers) but she did most of the work herself. Working for decades in court under several different judges, she knew the law better than the judges. She would signal or whisper to the judge when he was about to make an erroneous ruling. ;o)

She served in trials with some rather notorious defendants and a few well known attorneys. Thurgood Marshall once complimented her and the judge for presiding over a very fair trial.


11 posted on 12/14/2018 9:48:09 AM PST by DeFault User
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Exactly why there is now a “shortage” today. Back in the late 80’s, I believe, emerging technology threatened to make the court reporter obsolete. As a result, court reporters banded together through unions, legislation, and licensing requirements to prevent their jobs from technologically obsolete. Now, there is a human shortage, however, as you suggest there is technology that can record and transcribe courtroom interactions.


12 posted on 12/14/2018 9:48:20 AM PST by Obadiah
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We have computer programs that can provide all that...................


13 posted on 12/14/2018 9:49:27 AM PST by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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Last summer I attended a few days of big mob trial in Boston's Federal Court.I made it a point to arrive early each day because seating was first come,first served basis.

As a result I spent some to sitting with only a few court officials and/or lawyers present...setting things up.

during one of those periods I asked the court reporter how she learned to do her job.She was non-specific but basically said it take a lot of training and a lot of experience.

Also,on a side note...the lawyer heading up the prosecution team in that case was Fred Wyshak,the man who successfully prosecuted Whitey Bulger and several FBI agents regarding the decades of murder,drug dealing and corruption in Boston that was just recently ended.I asked him about the film "Black Mass" in which he was briefly portrayed.He,a guy with a full head of hair,laughed and said "I wish they had found somebody with hair to play me". The guy who played him in the film was pretty much bald

14 posted on 12/14/2018 9:56:13 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (I've Never Owned Slaves...You've Never Picked Cotton.End Of "Discussion".)
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Locally, the court “recorder” is there to make sure the sound recording system is working rather than using a steno machine to type as it happens. I don’t know when or how a paper transcript is made or what happens if the judge wants something repeated in the courtroom like court dramas would show the stenographer reading what she had just typed.


15 posted on 12/14/2018 9:59:54 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Leave the job, leave the clearance. It should be the same rule for the Swamp as for everyone else.)
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Thank you! I wondered about that as well. You just cleared it up for me.


16 posted on 12/14/2018 9:59:57 AM PST by mistfree (It's a very uncreative man who can't think of more than one way to spell a word.)
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“We have computer programs that can provide all that...................”

Close, but no cigar. Most speakwrite programs only work when they are trained to understand the speaking peculiarities of the individual user. Witnesses, OTOH, all speak differently, often with slurred voices, foreign accents, and mumbles. In addition, there are often very many persons whose testimony is being transcribed in any given month, meaning a program can't be trained to catch the unique characteristics of each. Thus, the only machine that can really work is a human being with fully functioning eyes and ears. A court reporter often needs to watch a witness’s lips to understand the witness. Finally, if the court reporter can't understand a witness, the reporter can always ask the witness to repeat his or her testimony.

17 posted on 12/14/2018 10:11:37 AM PST by libstripper
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Because transcripts are still a necessity


18 posted on 12/14/2018 10:20:48 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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It’s like medical records (medical transcription). It’s now done on voice recognition, but there are so many doctors from all over the world with many different accents and inflections that it still takes a person to edit the medical record. It’s scary what the program “thinks” it hears, especially when it comes to drugs and dosages.


19 posted on 12/14/2018 11:27:13 AM PST by gattaca ("Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives." Ronald Reagan)
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It is a sad fact and skilled court reporters are not so easily replaced as store clerks

I tried to make it as a court reporter; but, I simply couldn't get to the 225wpm. I was fast on a typewriter; and, I was fast taking Gregg Steno; but, the machine was different and I could only get to a certain level and I couldn't go higher.

I believe that when I was taking classes, I read an article that said that 85% of people who try to conquer machine shorthand drop out. So, the reason for a shortage is that it is a rare combination of dexterity and quickly translating what you are hearing to the "code" that is the word in the machine language. Very few people have that combination.

20 posted on 12/14/2018 11:50:48 AM PST by LibertarianLiz
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