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To: zipper

To answer question: Look at Utah or OK. You will get lots for your money. otherwise Reno, NV but state will be blue and same for AZ,CO,New Mexico -see why below

“If you’re not a lib, why the hell would you ever be in CA to begin with? Just askin’”

the weather? but it might surprise you to know that there are still more conservatives in the state of CA than any other state (by virtue of it being by far the most populous state) and yes we are swamped by Dem voters but the tv coverage of white liberals is not what drives the state politics.

what is really going on is the demographic or ethnic block voting for Dems- that is the real story, and challenge for GOP. Without the block voting of African American’s (93% + for Dems+ and Hispanic Americans-approaching 70%,) CA would still be the state that elected Reagan governor and nationally the Dems would have a little over 100 seats and about 10-12 Senate seats.

Just look at the states won by Trump,he won 32 states but only 4 have a population of Hispanic voters over 13%. Clinton by contrast won 28 states and only 5 had a Hispanic population of under 13%.

In CA, the Hispanic Population is now about 40% (and yes fueled by illegal immigrants and higher birth rate )and African American 12%.

This demographic shift and resulting voting trend is what is going on in early stages in Nevada, Az, Fl and now Texas. Colorado is now over 20% Hispanic and now a dem state, Nevada over 29% and voting solidly blue. I believe this is why the dems are for illegal immigration-it gets them votes and power.

We need to address, its like trying to win a basketball game where the other team gets to start with a 20 point lead so we cannot pretend we can win without Hispanics or fall for the “its just white liberals” myth or the entire country will be CA


218 posted on 11/16/2018 1:00:20 AM PST by TECTopcat (TopCat)
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To: TECTopcat

Yes I agree with your characterization of demographic trends.

I spend a lot of time in CA because of work, and I am fond of using the “but they do have nice weather” caveat after I describe in long detail my opinion of how dysfunctional CA is.

My favorite source of analysis is the historian and Hoover Institute scholar Victor Davis Hanson. He’s a native Californian and still has a ranch there, so his critiques are not just a reflection of bias against CA (and most people elsewhere love to make fun of CA).

The outlook for CA is really bleak given the unfunded pension obligations and given who’s in charge. The taxes will only go up if history is any guide.

The elites in CA are on the coast, and most of the normal (and poorer) people live inland in the more rural areas, as I’m sure you know.

There won’t be a big change anytime soon in CA — the leftist education system has a lock, and so does the leftist media. The Dems want immigrants to hate America’s founding principles and to hate capitalism, and they’re succeeding. The less educated and new immigrants are more susceptible to brainwashing because they are attracted to narratives from people that promise them the most handouts (Dems) and it takes experience and determination to overcome the indoctrination. Eventually they do but it takes a long time. And we have to help them realize they are being treated as pawns, against their own self-interest.

Anyway I still don’t know much about your particular situation but if you’re retirement age consider getting a big RV and just seeing America. You could buy a small house in the country or suburbs in a no-income-tax state, and then use the RV to stay for a week or two or a month, getting discounts for longer stays, just about anywhere. We have met many, many couples doing this on the road in ours.

And be forewarned — as I know from knowing many ex-Californians — they will go after you for taxes every year, no matter where you are. So make sure you can prove you live elsewhere with documentation.


219 posted on 11/16/2018 2:59:41 AM PST by zipper (In their heart of hearts, every Democrat is a communist)
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