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The US is sending more troops to the border. Here's what they can and can't do
WRAL-TV ^ | 10/26/18 | Catherine E. Shoichet, CNN

Posted on 10/29/2018 8:02:24 AM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt

(CNN) — Defense Secretary James Mattis has authorized the deployment of more troops to the US-Mexico border, the Pentagon announced Friday.

The deployment will start with an undetermined number of forces heading to the border by the end of the month, and could eventually grow in size to 800 troops or more, a defense official said.

It's a move aimed at sending a message as a migrant caravan makes its way through Mexico, bound for the US border, drawing the ire of President Trump.

But it's important to note that even though troops are involved, the military isn't bracing for battle.....

(Excerpt) Read more at wral.com ...


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: aliens; armchairidiot; border; caravan; honduras; illegals; immigration; mexico; troops
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To: kjam22

no problem


61 posted on 10/29/2018 8:43:20 AM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: knarf
What we did in the Navy when performing interdiction (drugs) duty was to embed a Coast Guard officer with each unit. CG officers can make arrests where as Naval Officers can't (unless that person arrested is actually in the USN). So the CG officer would take a squad/patrol of armed US sailors to search a vessel and if contraband was found the CG Officer makes the formal arrest.

Even our CO couldn't do that. A US Navy officer arresting someone in international waters is considered an act of war. Where the Coast Guard can make arrests under international treaty.

62 posted on 10/29/2018 8:44:00 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

I imagine they’ll be changing sh*tty diapers, babysitting, handing out food, water and welcome baskets.


63 posted on 10/29/2018 8:49:22 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (#NotARussianBot)
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To: mountainlion

I am just speculating that if Pres. Trump does impose martial law, it will not be until after the election.


64 posted on 10/29/2018 9:06:51 AM PDT by erkelly
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

They most certainly should be preparing for war.


65 posted on 10/29/2018 9:12:36 AM PDT by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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To: HombreSecreto

Posse Comitatus allows for domestic law enforcement use, with Congressional authorization.

The Congress has provided standing authorization for certain such uses, specifically including stopping illegal aliens at the border (such as the Defense Authorization Act of 2007).

They also specifically recognize the President’s Constitutional authority, which includes protecting against invasion.

All that is needed is for the President to determine that it is needed, or for the DHS Secretary to request it.


66 posted on 10/29/2018 9:28:23 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

How about they put up a sign which says “Go Home”


67 posted on 10/29/2018 9:32:07 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: WMarshal

Test this. See what the sc says. Should be more interesting now than it would have been a month ago.


68 posted on 10/29/2018 9:33:07 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

Again trusting CNN to tell the truth is foolhardy.

The US Constitution says no such thing. In fact, Article IV states in
Section 4:

The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government, and shall protect each of them against invasion…

The Posse Comitatus Act is an 1878 act that was enacted to prevent Union troops from continuing to enforce federal laws in the defeated South after the American Civil war.

Here is the text as modified by Congress in recent years:

Sec. 1385. – Use of Army and Air Force as posse comitatus

Whoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly AUTHORIZED BY THE CONSTITUTION OR AN ACT OF CONGRESS, willfully uses any part of the Army or the Air Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.

Therefore in this case of CNN’s manure, they are, again, irrelevant. So much for Trump’s decision to protect our security. He’s well within his rights and those of the people he represents. You go POTUS!!

rwood


69 posted on 10/29/2018 10:04:19 AM PDT by Redwood71
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To: Zathras

I would go for that.....


70 posted on 10/29/2018 10:12:58 AM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Redwood71

Good info - thanks!


71 posted on 10/29/2018 10:13:52 AM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

What is needed is a Caravan of Veterans to go to the border to do what the military isn’t allowed to do.


72 posted on 10/29/2018 10:24:28 AM PDT by gdc61
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To: gdc61

That would be great to see ....


73 posted on 10/29/2018 10:31:45 AM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

Wow, really? So troops can’t protect the US border from invasion?


74 posted on 10/29/2018 10:40:10 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: Sam Gamgee

Yes, they can protect our border. This article was from CNN and should have had a barf alert - my bad.

Many have posted good information on this thread about what can and cannot be done by our troops.

By the way, this statement is directly from the White House email:

“Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen said the migrant caravan headed for the U.S. southern border will not cross over into the United States, on ‘Fox News Sunday,’” Nick Givas writes in The Daily Caller. “There is a legal way to enter this country. Those who choose to enter illegally will be stopped,” Secretary Nielsen said.”


75 posted on 10/29/2018 10:52:47 AM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

I gave the article some merit because on Fox last Friday there was an “expert” from law enforcement who said something similar. He said only law enforcement could act on the border and it was unconstitutional for the army to have a role there.


76 posted on 10/29/2018 10:59:26 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: Sam Gamgee

Well, that may be true....but others have said if the President - or the governors - declare Martial Law on the border, he can use US troops to enforce the Martial Law. That may become necessary.


77 posted on 10/29/2018 11:01:47 AM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

Ok, after reading a lot of macho bluster from lots of “Keyboard Kommandos”, I’ve come to some conclusions. Call me “Jeb”, I don’t care, but here’s how I see it, and it’s just my opinion:

1. The caravan(s) will arrive at the US border right before election day.
2. There will be NO martial law.
3. The US military will NOT be standing like a phalanx with fixed bayonets to repel invaders.
4. The US will cut a deal with Mexico, probably already done, to allow FEMA or some such to provide temporary shelters on the Mexican side for all the caravan crowd.
5. The US military will be FEMA’s GoFers to run logistics and make sure food, water and sanitary conditions are provided.
6. All the caravan people will be pre-processed in turn, with those who are obvious “undesirables” taken aside for shipment back to where they came from.
7. Those who pass the pre-processing will be funneled through the immigration process, given a hearing date, and let go inside the US territory.
8. Anyone inside the US who attempts to interfere with this process will be arrested and charged with something or other.
9. The processing plan will not be revealed in detail until AFTER election day.
10. After election day, regardless of the outcome, everyone will go back to political “BS as usual”.

PLEASE, TRUMP, PROVE ME WRONG! But after watching politics for decades I really don’t believe I am.


78 posted on 10/29/2018 3:48:01 PM PDT by Gideon300
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

Welcome. But add one thing to it. Remember that the Branch Davidian fire in Waco, Texas, was started inside the compound after Koresh asked Deputy Sheriff Lynch on the phone why they sent seven seals they could see to storm the compound. So it’s been done before. And that time it was against US citizens and not invading aliens.

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/10-things-you-may-not-know-about-waco/

And I’m sure you’ll notice this article came from a liberal PBS account so it is not trying to find something to pass blame from a conservative source. It happened and the liberal source admitted it.

rwood


79 posted on 10/29/2018 9:09:56 PM PDT by Redwood71
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