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Safety Measures Ordered At Sinking San Francisco Tower
Associated Press ^ | 14 sept 2018 | OLGA R. RODRIGUEZ

Posted on 09/14/2018 6:47:41 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT

A window on the 36th floor of the tilting high-rise cracked last week and engineers have yet to determine a cause

Millennium Tower must inspect all units and install a canopy around the perimeter of the 58-story building by Friday afternoon.

The downtown tower has settled about 18 inches (45 centimeters) since it opened over a former landfill in 2009. Homeowners have filed multiple lawsuits against the developer and the city.

(Excerpt) Read more at hosted.ap.org ...


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KEYWORDS: associatedpress; california; millenniumtower; olgarrodriguez; sanfrancisco; tilt
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To: DUMBGRUNT

What if there is an earthquake?


21 posted on 09/14/2018 7:16:11 AM PDT by rdl6989
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To: eyeamok

All involved are sweating blood, that the soil tests showed the disturbed ground, was accounted for and is shown in the documents.


22 posted on 09/14/2018 7:16:31 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (So what!)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
since it opened over a former landfill in 2009

Well THERE'S your problem!

23 posted on 09/14/2018 7:17:32 AM PDT by grobdriver (BUILD KATE'S WALL!)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
"The downtown tower has settled about 18 inches (45 centimeters) since it opened over a former landfill in 2009. Homeowners have filed multiple lawsuits against the developer and the city."

Uh oh. Somebody(s) got greedy.

24 posted on 09/14/2018 7:17:47 AM PDT by OKSooner
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To: SoCal Pubbie

“Wouldn’t there be a huge problem if the ground floor is 18 inches below street level?”

Not in Chicago.

Some areas of Chiraq had several FEET of fill added, making the front window, appear to be an area well.

See the third photo down at link:
https://www.wbez.org/shows/wbez-blogs/south-chicago-past-and-present/59510e5d-09e1-4c1a-959f-540c925d5122


25 posted on 09/14/2018 7:22:09 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (So what!)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Money problems, moral problems, septic problems, and literally sinking problems S.F. In in descent. Liberal leftist leaders just are great for the world.


26 posted on 09/14/2018 7:24:09 AM PDT by Retvet (Retvet)
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To: Mozzafiato

“there is no way to save it”

Have you checked with Bob’s MUD Jacking Service?

Call now!
Operators are standing by, waiting for your call.


27 posted on 09/14/2018 7:26:04 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (So what!)
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To: Halls
I’d move out and fast!

Sure, for safety reason I'd move out fast, before a catastrophe. However, the problem is that these are mostly multi-million dollar condos which obviously now have zero resale value and are basically worthless.

I don't know the financial position of each tenant but losing multiple millions in real estate might just be financially catastrophic. As in, they would then have to live in regular homes or apartments which they might consider Section 8 type housing.

In all seriousness while these people are facing a serious financial loss, they ought not stay. This Titanic is going down - one way or another.

28 posted on 09/14/2018 7:30:38 AM PDT by Obadiah
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To: DUMBGRUNT

That entry door seems level, or even slightly above, the adjacent sidewalk. Was it built that way, or was the door raised and that little bridge added later? In which case you’d need steps inside the doorway in order to be standing on the first floor.


29 posted on 09/14/2018 7:32:00 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: G Larry

“Somebody wanna explain how you jack it back to level?”

In THE ORIGINAL leaning tower:

The final solution to preventing collapse of the tower was to slightly straighten the tower to a safer angle, by removing 38 cubic meters of soil from underneath the raised end. The tower has been declared stable for at least another three hundred years.
http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Leaning_Tower_of_Pisa


30 posted on 09/14/2018 7:38:17 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (So what!)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

They raised the streets to get them out the swamp that Chicago was built on. If you go to downtown Chicago the city is built up about 20 ft. It’s really visible at the river bridges, or union station, the bridges over the river are flat, and the trains go flat into a basement. Prop who live in those houses can have storage under the sidewalk, and they were often the site of the outhouse in the late 1800s. It’s a fascinating read the raising of chicago


31 posted on 09/14/2018 7:40:26 AM PDT by sharkhawk (Chelsea Dagger)
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To: sharkhawk

I’ve been to Chicago many times. I always thought that the sections under Michigan Ave, like where the Billy Goat Tavern is IIRC, were just built that way.


32 posted on 09/14/2018 7:46:05 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: G Larry

In 1959. Marblehead, MA, finally lets Jews build the first synagogue in town (Temple Emanuel) — on top of a swamp no one else wants. Building begins sinking during construction, and after, until the foundation/walls crack. Construction vehicles sink in swamp during construction. One guy has to climb out his truck window to safety. Place is a disaster. Now, Marblehead is firmly Jewish, townies hate it.


33 posted on 09/14/2018 7:49:15 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: Retvet

The Streets Of San Francisco

Tonight’s Episode:

The False Foundation


34 posted on 09/14/2018 7:57:27 AM PDT by wally_bert (Terrific! Terrific? Harve Nyquist never ordered any radials.)
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To: OKSooner

“Uh oh. Somebody(s) got greedy.”

Pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered.
NB: Millennium Tower received no such scrutiny...

The development was the first high rise built downtown in 20 years. According to Modern Luxury, a proposed 52-story skyscraper at nearby 80 Natoma by developer Jack Myers which would also have a similar poured concrete construction, was rejected by the city’s Department of Building Inspections (DBI) after an outside peer review. The Millennium Tower received no such scrutiny, since Millennium Partners would not submit to a peer review, as that study would have potentially delayed construction by years.[24]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Tower_(San_Francisco)


35 posted on 09/14/2018 8:03:21 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (So what!)
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To: rdl6989

“What if there is an earthquake?”

Don’t kid yourself: What happens WHEN there is an earthquake?


36 posted on 09/14/2018 8:14:32 AM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Building on fill is tricky. We had a mall here in Pittsburgh that was built on fill that was subsiding at a fantastic rate. The whole place shook whenever a big truck rolled nearby. It was finally demolished last year.


37 posted on 09/14/2018 8:16:17 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Joe Montana owns a condo there.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2708539-joe-montana-reportedly-suing-developers-over-sinking-san-francisco-building


38 posted on 09/14/2018 8:19:40 AM PDT by rdl6989
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To: txrefugee

The term is a little misleading in this context and it’s actually interesting. Much like New York or Boston, this is filled in bay. During the gold rush a large number of ships were abandoned at their berths as everyone took off for the gold fields. They were sunk and fill was brought in to create new land. Over the years quite a number of ships or parts thereof have been unearthed during modern building. The next poster is right: if you drive the piles to bedrock, which if
Memory serves should be about 45 feet, there should be no problem


39 posted on 09/14/2018 8:21:40 AM PDT by j.havenfarm ( 1,500 posts as of 8/10/18. A FReeper since 2000; never shutting up!)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Same in the earliest parts of Sacramento, which date to the 1850s and is now a state park. Because of frequent floods from the Sacramento River, in the 1860s they brought in fill to raise the grade. The basement in a number of the historic structures is actually the old first floor


40 posted on 09/14/2018 8:24:29 AM PDT by j.havenfarm ( 1,500 posts as of 8/10/18. A FReeper since 2000; never shutting up!)
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