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To: Steven W.
I avoid Hal Turner like the plague.

Here's his bio, none of which is really in dispute: Wikipedia: Hal Turner

Harold Charles "Hal" Turner (born March 15, 1962) is an American white nationalist, Holocaust denier,[1] and blogger from North Bergen, New Jersey. In August 2010, he was convicted for making threats against three federal judges with the 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals. Prior to Turner's arrest, his radio program, The Hal Turner Show, was a webcast from his home once a week....

But wait, as they say: THERE IS MORE !

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Turner was a paid informant for the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) for several years, supplying information about right-wing groups to federal agents.[27] The original allegations that Turner acted as an informant for the FBI surfaced in 2008 after unidentified hackers claimed on Turner's website's forums that they had read email correspondences between him and an FBI agent, apparently his handler. This led to a discussion on a neo-Nazi website on January 10, 2008, in which Turner revealed that he was quitting political work, ending his radio show and separating "from the 'pro-White' movement". The FBI has declined to comment on the matter.[28] The Southern Poverty Law Center[29] and the Anti-Defamation League reported on the emails that "a neo-Nazi Website had posted material reportedly found by the hackers, including alleged exchanges between himself and law enforcement agents which indicated that Turner had been providing information to them."[30]

On July 28, 2009 in a Chicago courtroom, Turner's defense lawyer said that Turner worked as a paid informant for the FBI.[31] In December 2009, The Record published an investigative report on Turner's "complex" relationship with the FBI and Federal US Marshal Service, noting that all parties broke off contact at several points.[32]

Turner's information led to the arrests of the Hutaree militia, with Turner's FBI handler serving as the prosecution's witness.[33]

Michael A. Orozco, Turner's lawyer said, "I don't think he was a racist. He was doing a lot of those things at the behest of the FBI."[34]

Surprise! Another idiotic supposed white nationalist, one who frequently crosses the line into insanity by saying the dumbest imaginable things, like denying the Holocaust, and who LARPS as a NAZI turns out to be .. AN FBI AGENT

Would there ever be *ANY* Nazi's at any right-wing rally if the FBI didn't create them, pay for them and send them?

Probably not.

1,155 posted on 08/20/2018 2:52:23 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: Jack Black
You may or probably know all this, just a summary repeat for the thread ...

Hal Turner was convicted of some sort of "threatening a judge" allegation. Took two trials, the first ended in a mistrial. He gave a judge's address and made what I'll call an intemperate remark. I think that is the 2009 case with Turner as defendant.

The Hutaree is another example of FBI hackery. Eventually all charges dismissed, but the members were certainly victims of "punishment by process," the same trick the government is using against Trump.

I'm not saying Trump and Hutaree have anything in common, other than the FBI and the government use the same sorts of hackery to go after anybody they don't like. All very selective and subjective.

1,159 posted on 08/20/2018 3:08:22 PM PDT by Cboldt
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