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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd
Respectfully, it's not that the Japanese "refuse to bow and scrape", it's that they have intentionally and systematically been given no knowledge of the history of WWII and their militarism gone mad at all. I've personally seen the look of disbelief on the faces of some Japanese friends who asked who were the Nazis when I replied, "You should know better than me. They were your allies".

Imagine if German schools for the past seventy years had taught that Poland started the war by attacking them, that the twelve million dead in the camps and killing fields (6 million Jews and the rest a mixture of other ethnicities, religions, political groups, and "untermenschen") had simply never existed much less been killed on an industrial scale, or that Germany was the victim and not the aggressor.

I agree with you that the generational group guilt imposed on Germany till this day has gone on too far and too long, and has contributed to their idiotic policy of permitting an invasion of Muslim barbarism. But Japan went to the opposite extreme and has never acknowledged at all the crimes and atrocities committed on their neighbors.

16 posted on 08/15/2018 7:46:45 AM PDT by katana (We're all part of a long episode of "The Terrific Mr. Trump")
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To: katana

Radical blacks say that to whites: you still know nothing about how bad you were during the slavery era.


20 posted on 08/15/2018 7:56:50 AM PDT by granada
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To: katana
The Nazi that Saved Chinese
21 posted on 08/15/2018 7:58:36 AM PDT by struggle
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I agree with both your point as well as the other guy’s point.

However, regarding Japan, unfortunately, even the few Japanese people who DO want to expose the dark side of Japanese history during the Japanese Textbook Controversy a while back seemed to have ill intent for Japan and America at large.

For example, Hideo Kojima advocated for exposing Japanese war crimes around the time MGS2 was in development, even having Snake say, and I quote, “[We should] let our children read our sad and messy history by its light.” And Kojima, well, let’s put it this way: MGS2 had him pretty much sympathizing with the Gurlukovich Mercenaries (who were explicit Communist Russians wanting to recreate the USSR), had The Boss essentially advocate for open borders and globalism in her speech in MGS3, advocated for multilateralism in MGS4, especially America effectively being forced to undergo multilateralism, and, save for a drunken rant from one of the characters, this result of the Patriots being eliminated was treated as an actual good thing. Oh, and Peace Walker had the characters singing praises for Che Guevara (despite the fact that, had he had his way and launched nukes at the United States, the USSR would probably take the opportunity to reenact Nagasaki and Hiroshima multiple times in the resulting nuclear war) and even Mao Zedong. Don’t get me started on the rampant anti-Americanism in every game of Metal Gear save for MAYBE Snake Eater and Portable Ops.

So yeah, even the people of Japan who DO try to expose Japan’s sordid history ultimately have ulterior motives that would probably place Japan in a similar position to Germany right now (heck, like America with our own educational system right now. Say what you will about Japan, at least IT still teaches them to love their country, which is far better said than our own educational system). I don’t like it one bit, letting Japan whitewash its history, but on the other hand, I also realize I don’t have any reason to trust the ones who wish to expose the sad history as well, since they have bad aims as well (certainly, Kojima did). In other words, it’s a “pick your poison” option here.


97 posted on 08/17/2018 4:38:01 PM PDT by otness_e
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