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To: Mr Rogers

My opinions are based on my experience as an enlisted, an NCO and an officer, not based on armchair internet soldiers or drunks down at the NCO club. Nor watching TV.

It is without question that women are not as strong as men, generally, however women bear pain better, are more organized and can pull a trigger as well as anyone else. That is the reality of why Israel and other military forces use women in the same role as men.

I guess you can take the position that the israel army is worse off but no intelligent person would accept that as a fact. Nor would anyone believe that Israel isnt interested in winning.


55 posted on 08/10/2018 11:05:21 AM PDT by Okeydoker
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To: Okeydoker

Israel doesn’t have a population of 300 million...and:

“But a closer look shows Israeli women are not in direct combat special operations such as the Green Berets. Nor are they in front-line combat brigades mobilized to engage in direct heavy combat.

In the infantry, virtually all of Israel’s female combat soldiers are confined to two light battalions — the Caracal and the Lions of Jordan — which are assigned to guard the borders with Egypt and Jordan, the only Arab countries that have peace treaties with Israel...

...The Times of Israel said the IDF provided a statement that read, in part, that the “possibility of opening additional combat positions to girls is being tested all the time.” As of today, “infantry and the armored corps were ruled out for women.””

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/may/25/womens-combat-roles-in-israel-defense-forces-exagg/

“In the last five years, the IDF says, the number of women in combat roles has jumped five-fold. Today, it says, 8.4 percent of women serving in the army are in combat positions, whether in these co-ed battalions, as pilots, naval combat officers, combat intelligence, the artillery corps, or other roles.

https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2018/0208/Why-mixed-gender-combat-units-are-on-the-rise-in-Israel

The same article, pushing for more women, made this ridiculous comment:

“Soldiers in co-ed units themselves laugh off the notion that romance would interfere in their mission. After working such intense and long hours together in the field, they can’t imagine seeing each other in a romantic way, they say in interviews.”

Can’t speak to “romance”, but screwing? Oh yes! And one of the best cures for infertility is to order women to deploy. Suddenly pregnancy rates SOAR!


58 posted on 08/10/2018 11:23:33 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: Okeydoker

“generally, however women bear pain better, are more organized and can pull a trigger as well as anyone else.”

Laughable. Anyone who has experienced a lot of women in the workplace knows that’s a joke. Adding women does not increase organization unless you are talking clerical work. And that same old saw comes out “pull a trigger as well as anyone else”. They truth is 2 years ago the USMC conducted an extensive blind study on this and found they are nowhere near as good.
Also, you have no combat experience, but it’s way more than pulling a trigger. It’s carrying a load that would embarrass a sherpa, digging constantly like a miner in rocky mountain soil. And carrying that heavy device that holds the trigger to the bad place. Only then do you get to pull it.

Just “pulling a trigger” is it? You have shown your lack of chops to get this.


66 posted on 08/10/2018 11:59:29 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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