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Lieutenant becomes first woman to lead Marine infantry platoon
The Hill ^ | 08/09/18 | Morgan Gstalter

Posted on 08/10/2018 8:37:00 AM PDT by Simon Green

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To: NKP_Vet

Bingo and Trump knows so little about the military that he gives wide leeway to Mattis and all the other Obama generals.


61 posted on 08/10/2018 11:32:01 AM PDT by Midwesterner53
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To: DesertRhino
I’m guessing you weren’t a grunt.

No, I wasn't a grunt, but my son was. Unless they lowered the standards for her (meaning she passed all the physical requirements that men go through), I have no problem with her. I've worked with many strong women throughout my 35 year career. Every person is different. And the grunts shouldn't have to worry about the "me too" BS worries if they are decent men committed to doing their duty for a commander they respect. If they respect her (and she earns that respect) I see no issues. If they disrespect her on the sole basis that she is a woman, as you seem to be doing, that is a deficiency in their own character.

62 posted on 08/10/2018 11:41:06 AM PDT by ExpatCanuck (The)
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To: Okeydoker

Pontificate all you want. In Israel and Russia, women were never more than a small number of support types such as snipers who could be left in defensive positions. And they never were used as main infantry.
After the war, the Red Army never used them again. The Israelis also only use them in support roles.
As for cops, when some MS13 comes to your door, you can lie all you want, but nobody hopes a girl cop comes to save you.

And you, call people internet armchair soldiers. You have no idea of the fighting men found on this and other threads. Your slander of enlisted men tell me all i need to know about the adversity you never faced.


63 posted on 08/10/2018 11:48:24 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

The NFL doesn’t have a rule against women. Why arent they playing?

We all know the answer.


64 posted on 08/10/2018 11:50:58 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

“Strength differences are less important, but next.”

I see you were never an 0311.


65 posted on 08/10/2018 11:52:24 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Okeydoker

“generally, however women bear pain better, are more organized and can pull a trigger as well as anyone else.”

Laughable. Anyone who has experienced a lot of women in the workplace knows that’s a joke. Adding women does not increase organization unless you are talking clerical work. And that same old saw comes out “pull a trigger as well as anyone else”. They truth is 2 years ago the USMC conducted an extensive blind study on this and found they are nowhere near as good.
Also, you have no combat experience, but it’s way more than pulling a trigger. It’s carrying a load that would embarrass a sherpa, digging constantly like a miner in rocky mountain soil. And carrying that heavy device that holds the trigger to the bad place. Only then do you get to pull it.

Just “pulling a trigger” is it? You have shown your lack of chops to get this.


66 posted on 08/10/2018 11:59:29 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: DesertRhino
I see you were never an 0311.

Don't worry, when the SAW a 1000 meters away needs 3000 rounds of 5.56, she'll order someone else to carry it or they can do without.

67 posted on 08/10/2018 12:00:43 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: Mr Rogers

I agree, the biggest problem of women in the military is pregnancy.


68 posted on 08/10/2018 12:00:55 PM PDT by Okeydoker
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To: DesertRhino

Sorry, you have been on my Do Not Respond List for some time.


69 posted on 08/10/2018 12:02:34 PM PDT by Okeydoker
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To: ExpatCanuck

” And the grunts shouldn’t have to worry about the “me too” BS worries if they are decent men committed to doing their duty for a commander they respect”

Oh, you’re one of those types who thinks the infantry is where you find gentlemanly behavior. Everyone looks like Thomas Magnum, and writes their mother a letter at night, and seeks the advice of the chaplain before they doze off.
And on liberty call, they like to find healthful activities like cultural tours, or volleyball tournaments. LOL

And you have worked with some “strong women”.

LOL...got it. You have no clue.


70 posted on 08/10/2018 12:06:06 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Snickering Hound

Exactly


71 posted on 08/10/2018 12:07:58 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Okeydoker

“Sorry, you have been on my Do Not Respond List for some time.”

God, that’s a hard blow. I’ll probably be able to start eating again early this evening.
But thank you for demonstrating the precise pissy attitude that makes chicks unsuitable to lead men in combat.


72 posted on 08/10/2018 12:10:20 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: DesertRhino

The lieutenant that goes out to the fireteam with ammo and decent MRE’s and actually checks conditions will get much more respect than a chick on the radio that is constantly asking ‘Hey, see anything yet?’.


73 posted on 08/10/2018 12:31:33 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: the OlLine Rebel
This isn't sexism. This is common sense, experience and reality. Women don't belong in combat for all the reasons mentioned.

Imagine if in the near future a man somehow had a uterus implanted in a freak anti-natural procedure and by hooking up to machinery was able to approximately gestate a fetus. And all anybody had to say was "so brave" "he's stepping up and ensuring the next generation" "he deserves respect." The feelings you'd get from that are akin to how these men who KNOW the reality of infantry and KNOW the reality of combat feel about this scrawny chick pretenting to lead an infantry platoon.

It's absurd, it's not natural, it's not right and it's not necessary. People will die because she can't carry them. People will have to lug extra because the one supposed to be leading them can't carry the same weight as them. To say nothing of the morale damage it will so to these warrior men to have a thin piping shrill female voice bawling them out. F this shit.

74 posted on 08/10/2018 1:10:53 PM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd ( Flag burners can go screw -- I'm mighty PROUD of that ragged old flag)
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To: Mr Rogers

There are no women in combat roles in the Israeli military. They tried it and it was a dismal failure.


75 posted on 08/10/2018 4:12:06 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("Man without God descends into madness")
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To: NKP_Vet

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caracal_Battalion

The Israeli army has 3 combat battalions including the Caracal battalion that are mostly or partly female.


76 posted on 08/10/2018 5:34:43 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: Snickering Hound

They’re border guards, and they aren’t deployed in offensive combat roles.


77 posted on 08/10/2018 7:02:32 PM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd ( Flag burners can go screw -- I'm mighty PROUD of that ragged old flag)
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To: DesertRhino
Do you honestly think she has put up with only gentlemanly behavior throughout her career? I sincerely doubt it. She has probably been put through the wringer, and if she can deal with it, can pass ALL the physical standards (with no exceptions made for her) and her men respect her, then let her do it. I believe the purpose of the military is to protect the country and kill our enemies, not serve as a vessel for social experiments.

Also, being a smarmy a*hole in your response tells me that you are "one of those types" who probably never got any respect when you were in the service, probably didn't rise very high because of your limited capabilities and will be an embittered and tortured soul for the rest of your life because of it since it was your only chance at success, and you haven't accomplished much since. If you can't have a respectful discussion and choose to insult people who are trying to have one with you, then you will receive it in kind from those who are smarter than you. Basic human compassion compels me to advise you that I believe that in your case that may be a demographic of significant size. Do not contact me again.

78 posted on 08/13/2018 9:56:56 AM PDT by ExpatCanuck (The)
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