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7/19/2018 | Chode

[Chode]

Hockenheimring

FIRST GRAND PRIX 1970

NUMBER OF LAPS 67

CIRCUIT LENGTH 4.574KM

RACE DISTANCE 306.458KM

LAP RECORD 1:13.780 by Kimi Räikkönen (2004)

[Chode]

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UP...!!!

[HenpeckedCon]

I’m not a big fan of F1, but Silverstone was quite entertaining. Vettel’s pass for the lead late in the race was well done.

[Chode]

yes it was and yes it was...

[truth_seeker]

I saw the 1970 German Frand Prix, at Hockenheimring. Won by Jochen Rindt, weeks before he died in Italy, practice or qualification.

We used to go to that track often for many categories of racing, with sidecar motorcycles being the most fun to watch.

An open class race took place almost every time we went, between a BMW 1600 or 2002 and a Corvette.

The trunk of the BMW was propped open, to effect a wing.

The vette pulled ahead on straights, but the BMW closed in the curves in front of the stands.

[Carriage Hill]

Also on ESPN2 at 9am ET, if you have that on your CATV line-up.

Here’s a good site to keep track of all races, and get a direct line to some of the broadcasts:

http://www.tvracer.com

[mabarker1]

I’m present Boss.

TS- I’ll bet that BMW vs Vette was interesting. In My younger years (when I worked at a parts store and had access to a machine shop and could afford it) I Married into a ‘68 2002 that was a hodgepodge of 2002/1600 parts. Had the POS Solex 2bbl card that was replaced with a Weber, ported and polished the head and shaved a few mm to up the CR, lightened the rods and pistons, balanced the bottom end, Header and custom exhaust, Bilstien shocks, V Rated Metzler tyres. It was like driving a big Go Cart that was on Fly Paper even in the wet.

I kinda miss it but not the cost and maintenance parts.

[tomkat]

My old green 2002 was prolly my favorite ever auto.
Still running strong with over 250K on the clock, but the body pretty much evaporated.
Truth be told, the way I drove it sometimes, I should already be in the ground or a jar.
:-)

[Yo-Yo]

Until Chode posts the free practice results, here's a story on FP2:

FP2: Verstappen shades Hamilton to keep Red Bull ahead

His team mate Daniel Ricciardo topped Free Practice 1, and now Max Verstappen has shown that Red Bull have got some proper pace at the Hockenheimring, going fastest in FP2 – albeit just 0.026s ahead of Mercedes’ Lewis Hamilton.

Verstappen’s 1m 13.085s was the fastest ever lap of the German track, with the record getting broken successively throughout the session. There were some clouds on the horizon for the Dutchman, however, as he complained to his team of a strange noise on his Red Bull RB14 when he was downshifting.

There appears to be little to choose between the top three teams of Red Bull, Mercedes and Ferrari in Germany, with the five fastest cars in the session separated by just 0.3s. Behind Hamilton in P2 came his team mate Valtteri Bottas, with the Finn just eight-hundredths off the Briton's pace.

The Ferraris of Sebastian Vettel and Kimi Raikkonen were fourth and fifth, with home favourite Vettel reverting back to an older spec of exhaust on his SF71H in this session after trialling a new set-up in the morning.

Having been seventh and eight in FP1, the Haas cars were once again line astern in FP2, with Romain Grosjean in P6 and Kevin Magnussen P7, as the American team continued to flex their Ferrari-powered muscle around the Hockenheim circuit.

Charles Leclerc also demonstrated the advantage of a Ferrari power unit here, going an impressive eighth in his Sauber, ahead of the Renault of Nico Hulkenberg and the Force India of Esteban Ocon, who completed the top 10.

You may have noticed the lack of FP1 leader Daniel Ricciardo’s name in that opening gambit. That’s because the Australian, encumbered by penalties for a new MGU-K, energy store and control electronics and thus having to start Sunday’s race from the back of the grid, chose to focus on his long-run pace in this session rather than unleashing any qualifying simulation fireworks. Nonetheless, after surviving an early spin he wound up in 13th place, some 1.5s off his team mate’s ultimate best.

Ahead of Ricciardo were the second Force India and second Renault of Sergio Perez and Carlos Sainz, with Sainz’s coolant leak that side-lined him in FP1 having seemingly been sorted out.

Behind Ricciardo, meanwhile, Marcus Ericsson was P14 for Sauber, ahead of the Toro Rosso pairing of Pierre Gasly and Brendon Hartley in 15th and 16th, as the Swiss team appear to slip further away from the Haas-Renault-Force India midfield battle.

Williams and McLaren were the two teams lurking at the back of the field, with Fernando Alonso P17, ahead of the two Williams of Lance Stroll and Sergey Sirotkin. The were a few moments for Sirotkin in the session, the Russian nearly coming together with Ricciardo at the Turn 6 hairpin, before briefly exploring the gravel trap at Turn 13. Meanwhile for the second session in a row, Stoffel Vandoorne was the final runner in the second McLaren.

So with Friday’s running now complete, it’s time for the cars to get put away and the engineers to start working out if there’s anything they can do overnight to help their drivers get further up the grid in tomorrow’s qualifying session – which has the potential to be interrupted by a few thunderstorms!

[mabarker1]

P3- Raining, Track WET, Roostertails.

Nobody really doing laps in P3, some chatter about no Qualifying?! I’ve never heard of that in F1 or if I have I’m not remembering it.

Hammy comes in the back way head down, hat and hoodie, not showing his face or his normal “spring in his step” and climbs stairs to meeting with Engineering.

Both backup drivers for MB are at Track. Details are slim if nonexistent on what’s going on.

Hammy not feeling well but ready to drive.

Halfway through P3 and Hulkenburg only one to Post a time so far.

[mabarker1]

P3 11:35 to go and the cars start rolling out.

Hammy slips into the Garage.

[mabarker1]

Per Commentators: No Tyre Warmers after 2022 !?

[Yo-Yo]

Hamilton out of qualifying?

[mabarker1]

Yes He is!!!

Gearbox crapped out. Car lost hydraulic pressure = no shift,steer or throttle.

He hopped out of the Car and was pushing it to try and cross the Timing Line but that is no longer allowed. Per Regs Car must be under it’s own power. No pushing allowed.

[mabarker1]

Sorry, I just woke up and had to run the DVR to see what happened.

[Chode]

Third Practice

Hockenheim, 21 July 2018

	Driver	Team	Fastest Lap
1	Leclerc	Sauber	1:34.577
2	Ericsson	Sauber	1:35.000
3	Sirotkin	Williams	1:35.334
4	Vettel	Ferrari	1:35.573
5	Gasly	Toro Rosso	1:35.659
6	Hartley	Toro Rosso	1:36.151
7	Hulkenberg	Renault	1:36.873
8	Raikkonen	Ferrari	1:37.755
9	Stroll	Williams	1:38.393
10	Grosjean	Haas
11	Magnussen	Haas
12	Verstappen	Red Bull
13	Alonso	McLaren
14	Vandoorne	McLaren
15	Ricciardo	Red Bull
16	Sainz Jnr	Renault
17	Bottas	Mercedes
18	Ocon	Force India
19	Perez	Force India
20	Hamilton	Mercedes
Last updated 21 July 2018 at 12:04

Second Practice

Hockenheim, 20 July 2018

	Driver	Team	Fastest Lap
1	Verstappen	Red Bull	1:13.085
2	Hamilton	Mercedes	1:13.111
3	Bottas	Mercedes	1:13.190
4	Vettel	Ferrari	1:13.310
5	Raikkonen	Ferrari	1:13.427
6	Grosjean	Haas	1:13.973
7	Magnussen	Haas	1:14.189
8	Leclerc	Sauber	1:14.374
9	Hulkenberg	Renault	1:14.496
10	Ocon	Force India	1:14.508
11	Perez	Force India	1:14.552
12	Sainz Jnr	Renault	1:14.592
13	Ricciardo	Red Bull	1:14.682
14	Ericsson	Sauber	1:14.783
15	Gasly	Toro Rosso	1:14.793
16	Hartley	Toro Rosso	1:14.830
17	Alonso	McLaren	1:14.836
18	Stroll	Williams	1:15.269
19	Sirotkin	Williams	1:15.408
20	Vandoorne	McLaren	1:15.454
Last updated 20 July 2018 at 15:37

First Practice

Hockenheim, 20 July 2018

	Driver	Team	Fastest Lap
1	Ricciardo	Red Bull	1:13.525
2	Hamilton	Mercedes	1:13.529
3	Verstappen	Red Bull	1:13.714
4	Vettel	Ferrari	1:13.796
5	Bottas	Mercedes	1:13.903
6	Raikkonen	Ferrari	1:14.267
7	Grosjean	Haas	1:14.691
8	Magnussen	Haas	1:14.853
9	Leclerc	Sauber	1:15.097
10	Hulkenberg	Renault	1:15.282
11	Perez	Force India	1:15.415
12	Alonso	McLaren	1:15.544
13	Stroll	Williams	1:15.629
14	Sainz Jnr	Renault	1:15.769
15	Hartley	Toro Rosso	1:15.864
16	Sirotkin	Williams	1:15.876
17	Latifi	Force India	1:16.023
18	Gasly	Toro Rosso	1:16.071
19	Giovinazzi	Sauber	1:16.136
20	Vandoorne	McLaren	1:16.149

[Chode]

Hockenheim, 21 July 2018 = Fastest Lap

	Driver	Team	Q1	Q2	Q3	Time
1	Vettel	Ferrari	1:12.538	1:12.505	1:11.212	1:11.212
2	Bottas	Mercedes	1:12.962	1:12.152	1:11.416	1:11.416
3	Raikkonen	Ferrari	1:12.505	1:12.336	1:11.547	1:11.547
4	Verstappen	Red Bull	1:13.127	1:12.188	1:11.822	1:11.822
5	Magnussen	Haas	1:13.105	1:12.523	1:12.200	1:12.200
6	Grosjean	Haas	1:12.986	1:12.722	1:12.544	1:12.544
7	Hulkenberg	Renault	1:13.479	1:12.946	1:12.560	1:12.560
8	Sainz Jnr	Renault	1:13.324	1:13.032	1:12.692	1:12.692
9	Leclerc	Sauber	1:13.077	1:12.995	1:12.717	1:12.717
10	Perez	Force India	1:13.427	1:13.072	1:12.774	1:12.774
11	Alonso	McLaren	1:13.614	1:13.657		1:13.657
12	Sirotkin	Williams	1:13.708	1:13.702		1:13.702
13	Ericsson	Sauber	1:13.562	1:13.736		1:13.736
14	Hamilton	Mercedes	1:13.012
15	Ricciardo	Red Bull	1:13.318
16	Ocon	Force India	1:13.720			1:13.720
17	Gasly	Toro Rosso	1:13.749			1:13.749
18	Hartley	Toro Rosso	1:14.045			1:14.045
19	Stroll	Williams	1:14.206			1:14.206
20	Vandoorne	McLaren	1:14.401			1:14.401

[Chode]

yup, the Vette’s pay a heavy as in “heavy” price under breaking and in the corners

[Chode]

thx, it’ll be in the header from now on

[Chode]

sweet!