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A Russian explains why Russian Elites are so Anti-American (written before Trump's election)
Brookings ^ | February 23, 2016 | Maria Snegovaya

Posted on 07/19/2018 2:36:35 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege

In the view of many contemporary Russian leaders, the United States occupies a space on the world stage that rightly belongs to Russia—based on its possession of nuclear weapons, its history and culture, having the largest national territory, and other factors. Yet Russia’s apparent inability to compete with the United States on the world stage has resulted, for some leaders in Moscow, in mixed feelings of resentment, envy, and admiration.

Speaking earlier this month at the Munich Security Conference, Russia’s Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev warned that his country and the West are headed towards a “new Cold War.” He criticized Western leaders’ characterization of Russia as their biggest threat and wondered aloud whether the year was 2016 or 1962.

Yet the West is hardly to blame for renewed tensions. The real problem is that Russia is ruled by the leaders whose understanding of the world actually does stem directly from 1962.

Leonid Reshetnikov, a head of Russia’s Kremlin-linked Russian Institute of Strategic Studies (RISS), in a recent interview made several bold historical claims, including that “the United States first attempted to destroy Russia in 1917 by assisting the Bolsheviks, that Washington tried it again by hounding Nazi Germany against the Soviet Union in late 1930s, and yet again by destroying the Soviet Union in 1991.

It’s worth pointing out that Reshetnikov, Patrushev, and Putin are all former Soviet secret service officers. All three served in Russia’s security services during the peak of Soviet anti-Americanism, which followed the 1979 Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. The security services....

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TOPICS: History; Reference
KEYWORDS: mcgrufftroll; putin; putinsbuttboys; russia; trump; vladtheimploder
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1 posted on 07/19/2018 2:36:35 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

International Socialism is a real anchor.


2 posted on 07/19/2018 2:46:21 PM PDT by Paladin2 (no spelchek, no problem...)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
https://i.redd.it/3w2g5ecuckay.jpg
3 posted on 07/19/2018 2:46:22 PM PDT by NRx (A man of integrity passes his father's civilization to his son, without selling it off to strangers.)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

bkmk


4 posted on 07/19/2018 2:47:11 PM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Let me see
Both are physically large
Both have an abundance of natural resources
Both have an educated population (?)
Maybe the difference is capitalism vs. communism
Capitalism has millions of people pushing to improve their livelihood. Communism has hundreds of people planning out economic policy that may benefits others.
Maybe Putin can learn something from the US.


5 posted on 07/19/2018 2:47:51 PM PDT by dirtymac
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To: NRx

Lol...nice (and revealing) map.


6 posted on 07/19/2018 3:01:24 PM PDT by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

The same reason Democrat elites are anti-American?


7 posted on 07/19/2018 3:03:09 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

You know, Envy is Russia’s middle name. All through the 1800s and 1900s, they tried to copy Europe, feeling like a poor country cousin. They were fascinated with European literature, language, and music. Many of the upper class studied French and spoke it in front of their Russian servants when they were discussing something private. Their writers, like Tolstoy, looked admiringly over at the Victorian writers, and was keenly aware of the French. They copied European dress, titles, everything. They’re like a hungry, neglected child, staring intensely through the window, really. And I feel for them, but that’s one scary child and I don’t like being alone with it.


8 posted on 07/19/2018 3:10:20 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: A_perfect_lady

Envy was also Germany’s middle name. They saw the British Empire and French Empires, and they felt they were entitled to an empire of their own, in the East.


9 posted on 07/19/2018 3:11:58 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Paladin2

Again, I would like to point out that this discussion and problem involves NOT two but THREE countries.
One is the United States of America (mine)
Two is Russia, a giant country that struggles as it occupies space on more than one continent, rich in natural resources and space.
The THIRD, in these discussions, actually WENT OUT OF BUSINESS a number of years ago....The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The Second and Third, has the same address, Zip Code, language, culture, but a widely different government.
All too many on BOTH sides are still talking of the PAST, despite the fact that so much has changed.


10 posted on 07/19/2018 3:16:02 PM PDT by CaptainAmiigaf ( i)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Looking at the author’s Twitter account:

Maria Snegovaya
@MSnegovaya

Great news! “Trump’s approval rating dipped this week to its lowest level since March, according to Rasmussen — a polling firm that has published more favorable approval ratings for the...

7:33 AM - 19 Jul 2018

Maria Snegovaya

GOP seeks separation from Trump on Russia
7:27 AM - 19 Jul 2018 from Washington, DC

Apparently she’s not a big Trump fan.


11 posted on 07/19/2018 3:16:50 PM PDT by McGruff (We must accept this result and look to the future. - Hillary's concession speech)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
It was the Kaiser's government which let Lenin travel from Switzerland to Russia in 1917 to cause trouble, resulting in the Bolshevik takeover. The US made an unsuccessful attempt to assist the White Army, the enemy of Lenin's Reds.

I don't think Hitler's decisions vis-à-vis the USSR in the period from 1933 to 1941 took the US into account at all. We were neutral and wanted to stay that way. When Hitler invaded Russia in 1941, many prominent Americans were OK with the idea of them fighting it out without the US taking sides.

12 posted on 07/19/2018 3:35:19 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus
The US made an unsuccessful attempt to assist the White Army, the enemy of Lenin's Reds.

Another Wilsonian F-Up.

13 posted on 07/19/2018 3:37:36 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: CaptainAmiigaf

Has Russia stopped funding the CPUSA?


14 posted on 07/19/2018 3:38:06 PM PDT by Paladin2 (no spelchek, no problem...)
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To: Verginius Rufus

And more specifically, it was German High Command who had Lenin sent to Russia (it’s unclear whether the Kaiser himself had any involvement in the plan). Of course, there were some Americans who unfortunately helped bankroll the Bolsheviks (like Rockefeller, for example).


15 posted on 07/19/2018 3:38:43 PM PDT by otness_e
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To: dirtymac

Russia simply needs a Free Republic and prosperity would soar! Copy the U.S. Constitution.


16 posted on 07/19/2018 3:58:30 PM PDT by TheNext
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To: dfwgator
According to Alfred W. Crosby, America's Forgotten Pandemic: The Influenza of 1918, about 4500 American troops arrived in Archangel on the White Sea on Sept. 4, 1918, to assist the anti-Bolshevik forces. By the time they were pulled out in June 1919, they had suffered 192 deaths, including 112 killed or mortally wounded in action and 72 killed by disease--mostly by the Spanish flu. The Americans brought the flu virus to that isolated corner of Russia and an unknown number of Russians died from it--undoubtedly many thousands.

Crosby calls the counterrevolutionary regime based in Archangel "feckless."

17 posted on 07/19/2018 4:07:25 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
In the view of many contemporary Russian leaders, the United States occupies a space on the world stage that rightly belongs to Russia—based on its possession of nuclear weapons, its history and culture, having the largest national territory, and other factors. Yet Russia’s apparent inability to compete with the United States on the world stage has resulted, for some leaders in Moscow, in mixed feelings of resentment, envy, and admiration.

That seems pretty obvious.

Yet the West is hardly to blame for renewed tensions.

Probably not very much, but when a writer has to come out and say something like that, you might wonder why and whether there's not more going on than she admits.

Leonid Reshetnikov, a head of Russia’s Kremlin-linked Russian Institute of Strategic Studies (RISS), in a recent interview made several bold historical claims, including that “the United States first attempted to destroy Russia in 1917 by assisting the Bolsheviks, that Washington tried it again by hounding Nazi Germany against the Soviet Union in late 1930s, and yet again by destroying the Soviet Union in 1991.

Guy needs a history lesson. He must have spent half his life blaming us for intervening against the Bolsheviks, and now he thinks we forced them on Russia. Not to mention -- in the thirties we weren't a major power on the European scene. Whatever Britain and France, Germany and Russia got up to, we weren't involved.

18 posted on 07/19/2018 4:09:57 PM PDT by x
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To: CaptainAmiigaf

“The THIRD, in these discussions, actually WENT OUT OF BUSINESS a number of years ago....The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The Second and Third, has the same address, Zip Code, language, culture, but a widely different government.”

Well, in my view, yes and no.

I see Soviet Union/Russia much like China - the more things appear to change, the more they are really the same.

Both nations have consistently and continually been authortarian, dictatorial, reflecting extremes of inferiority and bellicose attitudes of superiorty, with political cultures not vastly changed from old imperial days to today, other than the modern political names given to institutions, which have largely been the same old institutions under new management - and that particularly in “foreign and domestic intelligence and foreign relations”.

I think the deep rooted cultures of both nations has the populace continually satisfied (if not at least acquiescent in) authoritarian dictators. Add to that political & military history that goes back just as deep with both nations having huge borders with a history of those borders being over run in the past.


19 posted on 07/19/2018 4:46:20 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

The headline doesn’t match the content of your selected excerpt. Want to try again?


20 posted on 07/19/2018 5:22:20 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Teach a man to fish and he'll steal your gear and sell it)
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