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Grandma, 68, on oxygen dies after company cuts electricity due to alleged overdue bill, family says
http://www.foxnews.com/ ^ | 7/9/18 | Katherine Lam

Posted on 07/09/2018 2:18:07 PM PDT by BBell

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To: NohSpinZone

They are call oxygen concentrators I think. And yes, my father had one in his house for years.


61 posted on 07/09/2018 2:55:57 PM PDT by LaRueLaDue
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To: SkyDancer
No...you are sort of wrong....

O2 Concentrators..are battery powered....

The only one's I know of are....anyway.

So...if her power was turned off...she could not re-charge her battery,....

62 posted on 07/09/2018 2:56:56 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Whiskey Tango Foxtrot)
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To: SkyDancer

Generator, no tank.


63 posted on 07/09/2018 2:59:23 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1)
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To: BBell

In hospice care. Very close to the end.


64 posted on 07/09/2018 3:01:35 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1)
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To: TexasGator

There is so much bull here I am speechless.

She would have received many notices and probably call attempts-——he family could have paid the bill for her——they are looking for a payout————that’s what this is all about.

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65 posted on 07/09/2018 3:02:03 PM PDT by Mears
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To: McGavin999

Hospice care. One call to the service and problem fixed.


66 posted on 07/09/2018 3:02:32 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1)
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To: Darteaus94025
“She was just starting to turn her life around...”

Probably an aspiring rapper too!

67 posted on 07/09/2018 3:04:51 PM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: Still Thinking

Likely not coherent. Under hospice care.


68 posted on 07/09/2018 3:05:48 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1)
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To: BBell

https://www.nj.com/essex/index.ssf/2018/07/grandmother_on_oxygen_dies_after_pseg_cuts_off_her.html#incart_most-readhudson


69 posted on 07/09/2018 3:08:56 PM PDT by SMGFan (Sarah Michelle Gellar is on twitter @SarahMGellar)
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To: SkyDancer

Not an oxygen tank ... it is an oxygen concentration device.


70 posted on 07/09/2018 3:11:32 PM PDT by taxcontrol (Stupid should hurt)
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To: SkyDancer

Home oxygen concentrators do plug in. I am wondering why they didn’t have or couldn’t get the portable bottles though.


71 posted on 07/09/2018 3:13:09 PM PDT by Tammy8
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To: BBell

To All - thanks, I got it. So how does this thing work? Is it pure O2 or what? Is it better than bottled O2?


72 posted on 07/09/2018 3:17:31 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: BBell

Um... why didn’t they call 9-1-1 instead of the electric company?


73 posted on 07/09/2018 3:17:55 PM PDT by LIConFem (I will no longer accept the things I cannot change. it's time to change the things I cannot accept.)
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To: sharpee

Yttria stabilized Zirconium Oxide is an oxygen ion-transport electrolyte when heated (600 C), as used in an engine exhaust oxygen sensor, in which a difference in oxygen content creates a voltage. Conversely, applying a voltage across the ceramic membrane will cause oxygen to migrate and concentrate.

Nernst’s ceramic lamp “Glower” was the original challenger to Edison’s carbon filament electric lamp. Nernst’s student “Langmuir” in turn, developed the tungsten filament for Edision, which eventually led to vacuum tube electronics.


74 posted on 07/09/2018 3:20:52 PM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: BBell

Some family member should have been monitoring things to
help the lady. Apparently no one keeping track.

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Two days before Daniels’ death, Washington says a family member made an
electronic payment of $500 to the company, bringing the balance to $1,400.

Daniels’ family made payments to the utility company totaling $950 for the
months of April, May and June, payment records provided to The Post shows.

https://nypost.com/2018/07/09/woman-on-oxygen-machine-dies-after-power-company-cuts-off-electricity/


75 posted on 07/09/2018 3:22:57 PM PDT by deport
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To: BBell

I tend to disagree with the “ghetto lottery” accusation. My mom had to use oxygen for COPD, and during bad spells, even that was not enough, triggering a rush to ER. Watching someone you care about drowning on dry land is more awful than you can imagine. Only monsters from hell would willingly let that happen to their mother or grandmother. I feel terrible for this family. They lack functioning brains, but probably do have hearts, and are crushed by this disaster of their own making.

My guess is that the family are extremely intellectually challenged. There are just too many possible ways to have dealt with this. A fairly large home use oxygen concentrator draws about 3 amps at 120v. The hospice operators through their equipment suppliers normally give you very long (like 50 to 100 feet) plastic tubes for the oxygen so the patient can move (or be moved) around in the home. If the home was near anyone with electricity they could have run an extension cord. If they didn’t have one, they could put the concentrator in the neighbor’s house and run the tubes from next door. Anyone with any sense would keep at least 24 hours of backup oxygen in cylinders. Many posters have listed other solutions.

Most of us find it impossible to believe that some people lack the skills to solve simple problems, other than demanding someone else handhold them. News alert: Some people are that stupid. They are not evil; they are dependent, very insecure because the world is hard on idiots. The politics of freedom, small government, etc., is threatening to them. An entire political party feeds off this group.


76 posted on 07/09/2018 3:24:51 PM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: SkyDancer
The output of a home concentrator runs about 98% O2 ... it's not as good as bottled gas or LOX, but it's good enough. The medical supply company doesn't have to deliver bottles every week, so it's cheaper. If the patient isn't very mobile, it can be the better choice. Some of the concentrator systems include a device to fill high-pressure bottles for use when the patient goes out of the house.

Also, FWIW, some military aviation units use a concentrator to fill the aircraft supplemental oxygen system. I work with a unit that has such a device.

77 posted on 07/09/2018 3:25:20 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: BBell

You are 100% correct.

And what kind of children allow their parent/grandparent to die.

There is so much wrong with this story that it cannot be telling the ENTIRE story.


78 posted on 07/09/2018 3:27:39 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: SkyDancer

It an O2 generator. My MIL has one upstairs. She also has a tank that would last days without power.


79 posted on 07/09/2018 3:28:35 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: lastchance

Not sure a hospital will admit after someone is on hospice.

The thing is I have cared for several very ill loved ones over the years and the truth is I would have figured out some way to get her oxygen. The concentrators do work better than tanks (my opinion, no idea if med. research shows that) but I always had tanks in case I needed them. So I would have had her on oxygen while I figured out a way to get electricity to that machine. Extension cord to neighbor, borrow or buy a generator, hook up to someone’s welder...something, anything. I would have called ambulance and let them help me get oxygen- it was an emergency obviously. I would not have quit figuring out things until I had her on reliable oxygen. Fact.

I think these folks just sat and waited for electric company to turn the power back on. I find that real hard to believe but some people will absolutely just wait for others to do something even in an emergency. I was raised to just do what you have to and get something done ASAP.


80 posted on 07/09/2018 3:29:55 PM PDT by Tammy8
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