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To: RinaseaofDs
Women see it as a personal freedom issue, even if they think abortion is a moral evil.

Don't you DARE cast this as "women see it". Women oppose abortion more than men. Try "feminists" see it, libertines see it, moral relativists see it, population control zealots see it ... don't EVER saty "women" see it. I am quite confident that Judge Amy Coney Barrett doesn't "see it".

Roe should be overturned first and foremost because it is a bad decision that goes against the U.S. Constitution. I remember when lawyers couldn't take out TV ads, etc. I hate that they can now, but I do believe that the Court ruled properly that the 1st Amendment allows them to do that. Abortion is not protected by the U.S. Constitution, and it is time for the Court to realize it, "political" consequences be damned.
108 posted on 07/06/2018 7:07:40 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

The irony of you citing the 1st amendment, and then telling me not to dare make this an issue of personal liberty is, well . . .

My personal position is that its an absolute evil, horrible law, and just another one of a long line of miscarriages committed by the SCOTUS over their long history of underperformance from their inception.

That doesn’t change the fact that many women are uneasy about telling a woman what they can do with their body, which is the way many see it.

Their women, so they aren’t going to look at this objectively. Many who would never get an abortion as still in favor of having the option.

Done right, each state should have come to their own conclusions about it, because you can squint as hard as you like and you can’t see a fundamental right to abortion as something guaranteed by the Constitution, or any of its amendments.

Roe is a distraction. Many, many other things need fixing, and there are other better ways to reduce abortion. Smoking is still legal, and fewer people are doing it, though there will always be people who do it.

Abortion is the same. Women are the gatekeepers of human life on earth, as flawed as that might seem in the grand design of things. God has a reason its that way, and ultimately those personal decisions will have a reckoning.

I’d rather see nine federal departments go away. I’d rather see us stop giving the country away to people that didn’t grow up here by companies that benefit from being here in the US.

Abortion is evil, and murder. It will always be that way. Unfortunately, it is culturally and physically different than when a person uses a gun to take the life of another person.

Abortion is decreasing in the US. It’s seen as evil, and stupid, and if you need one you’re a hot mess skank who won’t handle their s**t.

I see this through my three teenage kids and the kids I serve in the homeless outreach programs I help run.

In prison, crimes against children are still looked upon as something requiring justice beyond that which the courts will allow.

You can reduce abortion without changing Roe. I’d rather see Roe as irrelevant and bankrupt Planned Parenthood, for example. Bankrupting PP is a worthwhile political objective.


113 posted on 07/06/2018 7:29:50 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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