Posted on 07/02/2018 6:15:07 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK
In early September, the Senate held a confirmation hearing for Amy Coney Barrett, a Notre Dame law professor nominated for the Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals. Sen. Dick Durbin grilled her about her use of the term orthodox Catholic to describe those who try to practice the teachings of her church.
Do you consider yourself an orthodox Catholic? asked Durbin of Illinois, himself a Catholic, taking issue with Barretts use of that term to describe those who strive to align their lives fully with their churchs teachings. Hawaiis Sen. Mazie Hirono suggested Barrett would be beholden to Catholic teaching when deciding cases.
Californias Sen. Dianne Feinstein famously said, When you read your speeches, the conclusion one draws is that the dogma lives loudly within you, and thats of concern.
Yesterday The New York Times continued the religious test of Amy Coney Barrett with a hit piece headlined in the style of a Donald Trump tweet:
The article is written by religion reporter Laurie Goodstein, and is not of her typical caliber. It begins by attempting to exculpate the senators who grilled her by blaming Barrett for their questions. She suggests that they were not bigots but only asking Barrett legitimate questions that arose from her writing. It was really her fault she was asked about the dogma living loudly within her, because she had failed to cleanse all of her scholarship at the University of Notre Dame from mention of religion.
Then the story darkly suggests that she was not being truthful when she said she could be a fair appellate judge, because shes a member of a group that the senators would have liked to grill her about even more had they known she was a member:
Ms. Barrett told the senators that she was a faithful Catholic, and that her religious beliefs would not affect her decisions as an appellate judge. But her membership in a small, tightly knit Christian group called People of Praise never came up at the hearing, and might have led to even more intense questioning.
Were told that the practices of the group would surprise many faithful Catholics because members swear covenants to one another and are given personal advisors to help them remain faithful in their Christian vocations. Whats more, they practice the Christian teaching of men being heads of households. Heaven forfend. It is perhaps worth noting that Pope Francis named a member of this group auxiliary bishop of Portland in 2014, so membership in the group must not be disqualifying in the eyes of the Vatican.
But yes, this highly accomplished law professor who is now a judicial nominee is part of a conspiracy to suppress women, thats the ticket.
People who think that membership in this group legitimize a religious test are quoted, though they say that their religious test isnt really a religious test but more just asking questions. Then, as if were living in the 1960s and John F. Kennedy is being accused of dual loyalties, we get this:
Legal scholars said that such loyalty oaths could raise legitimate questions about a judicial nominees independence and impartiality. The scholars said in interviews that while there certainly was no religious test for office, it would have been relevant for the senators to examine what it means for a judicial nominee to make an oath to a group that could wield significant authority over its members lives.
Can Americans ever really trust a Roman Catholic, what with their eating fish on Fridays, and their pope business, and their pledges of commitment to other Christians?
A member of the group explains that Christian accountability is not as nefarious as The New York Times is making it out to be and that If and when members hold political offices, or judicial offices, or administrative offices, we would certainly not tell them how to discharge their responsibilities. Most of the criticisms of the group are attributed to critics, as opposed to people with names.
Then the article darkly suggests that people are trying to hide her membership in the group. One of the pieces of evidence for this is:
Every nominee for the federal bench is required to fill out a detailed questionnaire for the Senate Judiciary Committee. Ms. Barrett did not list any religious affiliations on her questionnaire, though many nominees have in the past.
The article says administration officials had advised nominees not to list religious affiliations. And its also worth noting something the article does not, which is that the questionnaire doesnt ask for religious affiliations. It asks for many other types of affiliations, but not religious ones. Probably because that would be viewed as a religious test.
The people quoted for the article are all critics of Barretts, which means that Some Worry About Religion Reporters Fairness.
This is quite a campaign that the Left is waging against Barrett on account of her being a practicing Roman Catholic. One can imagine how even a fraction of comparable scrutiny of a nominee with a different religion might be viewed by the media and other liberals.
Pretty good points. I guess you could say the supposed conservative woman was the problem and the other women performed liberally as advertised, though. Like maybe it only goes one way with women. The sample size is pretty small, but women do vote more liberally than men. But it is also true that no actual vehement known conservative woman has served.
The sample size of the SC is kind of limiting also when you think about it as far as trends. I wish Trump would blow everything up and appoint a non-lawyer regular person, non-elite type. Joe the plumber or something. My God, a non-lawyer on SC—all the scum clutches their pearls.
Freegards
I posted this quite awhile ago, but I again quote Hillaire Beloc in his campaign for Parliament
Gentlemen, I am a Catholic. As far as possible, I go to Mass every day. This [taking a rosary from his pocket] is a rosary. As far as possible, I kneel down and tell these beads every day. If you reject me on account of my religion, I shall thank God that He has spared me the indignity of being your representative
My familyy, the Bradfords, came to this country because the king of England had decreed that there would be one church in England and he would be the head of it. By the way we didn’t kick any Indians off their land when we got here. We found some vacant land and settled on it just like the Indians did when they came here.
“Do you consider yourself an ‘orthodox Catholic’?”
Imagine this being a question on a job interview. It would actually be illegal.
And these are not journalists questioning a political candidate in a voluntary interview.
Further, what happened to “no religious test” in Article VI?
This is an ethics violations and deserves a severe reprimand.
Who’s the one? I thought we had none.
The justice should be appointed on the basis of his or her fidelity to the Constitution alone. The Constitution is too important to be given second place to anything else.
Not to mention the fact that if you want a justice because of one particular issue, you may well end up getting another present that you weren’t expecting.
Several of them are protesting against the US Constitution. Does that count?
What religion are you? Bet you don’t tell me.
When are they going to call for Nancy Pelosi to resign????
My, my. Quite a collection of religious bigots on the forum today.
Aren’t we supposed to be above litmus tests here? I want an intelligent judge who will thoughtfully apply the constitution.
That’s it.
And I’m an ex Catholic.
Not a bigot, just very concerned with the sway a Pope or Bishop could have. Think of Boenher.
How about a protestant...
Pentacostal....
And you?
No more Protestants in the White House.
And supposed "conservatives" on a supposedly "conservative" forum are happy to join the festivities.
ROMAN CATHOLIC!!!! Daily Mass Attendee!
As is my daughter and 3 grandchildren.........
As I mentioned, my concern is the pressure the Pope puts on conservatives in office.
Look at Boenher and others, it’s sickening.
Give me a FREAKING break......this POPE has NO SWAY on REAL CATHOLICS!!
Who said people holding public office are real Catholics?
You should read history to see the power the Pope’s have used in the course of history.
“ROMAN CATHOLIC!!!! Daily Mass Attendee!”
Don’t worry, God will forgive you!
Next you’ll say they started the church and are the one true church. Oh, and Peter was the first Pope.
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