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Trained to Kill: The Inside Story of CIA Plots against Castro, Kennedy, and Che (Book Review)
https://www.amazon.com/Trained-Kill-Inside-against-Kennedy/dp/1510713565 ^ | April 18, 2017 | Antonio Veciano & Carlos Harrison

Posted on 07/02/2018 8:07:33 AM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

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The Author "Antonio Veciana is one of the most swashbuckling figures from the underground war against Fidel Castro in the 1960s and ‘70s. A former bank accountant in pre-revolutionary Havana, Veciana turned himself into a daring leader of the anti-Castro movement, organizing multiple assassination attempts and founding one of the most militant Cuban exile groups, Alpha 66, under the secret guidance of the CIA."

Veciana had a compelling crusade in life- to help free his countrymen from a ruthless dictator. As an octogenerian, it appears that Veciana is setting the record straight. "Now I am old. My wife is gone. My children are grown. I have survived cancer and a heart attack. Now I can reveal the truth about my double life." Veciana discloses how the CIA really operated during the 1960's -1970's. His confession confirms Jim Garrison's conclusions that Oswald was a member of the intelligence community and that there were active plots in that community to kill the president. Veciana met LHO at a meeting with his own CIA handler in Dallas a few weeks before the assassination.

Veciana later came to realize that his Agency handler (Bishop) was actually the CIA's chief of operations for the Western Hemisphere (David Atlee Phillips), who recruited him to organize Alpha 66- the terrorist group intent to kill Castro. Veciana relates how the CIA trains its operatives to lie, cheat, steal and kill with an allegiance to the Agency that was above all else - including that to their families, their religion and their moral values.

1 posted on 07/02/2018 8:07:33 AM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

So should we just assume now that the CIA killed JFK?


2 posted on 07/02/2018 8:11:44 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: PGR88

It would not surprise me to find the CIA was involved.

It was always clear that Lyndon Johnson had the most to gain from President Kennedy’s assassination.


3 posted on 07/02/2018 8:20:13 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Oswald was a Patsy.


4 posted on 07/02/2018 8:26:09 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY)
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To: PGR88

There is a mountain of evidence the CIA killed JFK—this just adds to the pile of books on the subject:

Deathbed confessions: https://www.amazon.com/Bond-Secrecy-Watergate-Conspirator-Howard/dp/1936296837

FOIA document releases: https://www.amazon.com/Oswald-CIA-John-Newman/dp/0786701315

And yes, Oswald was a patsy:

https://www.amazon.com/Me-Lee-Came-Harvey-Oswald/dp/1936296373/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1530545406&sr=1-1&keywords=lee+and+me


5 posted on 07/02/2018 8:31:22 AM PDT by cgbg (Hidden behind the social justice warrior mask is corruption and sexual deviance.)
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To: PGR88

Sure, why not, They are the ones blocking all the JFK record dumps.

Apologist have claimed that the Agency was just blindly unknowing -incompetent and negligent regarding Oswald’s activities.

All the existing circumstances and coincidences prove the contrary- he operated in some capacity for them. And he was used by them. And it worked, well enough.


6 posted on 07/02/2018 8:36:29 AM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: PGR88

I had a suspicion for many years that Oswald was really a CIA operative.
Having seen recorded interviews in which SS agents swore there were gunshots from forward of the presidents limo, confirmed for me that there was a conspiracy. To me Oswald literally stunk of CIA. The SS agents said the shot cadence was more of a ‘bang... Bang, bang’ than a ‘bang.. bang.. bang’ both of these impressions were held by multiple members of President Kennedy’s SS detail who were present thar day.
These facts and the veracity of the witnesses have led me to firmly believe that rogue CIA agents were involved. I don’t believe that CIA director John McCone had any prior knowlege of the assassination attempt.


7 posted on 07/02/2018 8:42:09 AM PDT by .44 Special (Tiamid Buarsh)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Was the Milk Marketing Board involved somewhere?


8 posted on 07/02/2018 8:43:06 AM PDT by Kommodor (Terrorist, Journalist or Democrat? I can't tell the difference.)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

“...Che Guevara’s murder...”

They say this like it’s a bad thing.


9 posted on 07/02/2018 8:45:18 AM PDT by Little Pig
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To: .44 Special

McCone was a JFK loyalist and kept out of the loop.

Former CIA Director Allen Dulles was fired by JFK and he was one of the key conspirators. Others included counter-intelligence chief Angleton and the Western Hemisphere operations team.

LBJ and J Edgar Hoover were conspirators as well.


10 posted on 07/02/2018 8:48:20 AM PDT by cgbg (Hidden behind the social justice warrior mask is corruption and sexual deviance.)
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For more on LBJ’s role, Roger Stone’s book on the subject is the best:

https://www.amazon.com/Man-Who-Killed-Kennedy-Against/dp/1626363137


11 posted on 07/02/2018 8:52:11 AM PDT by cgbg (Hidden behind the social justice warrior mask is corruption and sexual deviance.)
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To: cgbg
Roger Stone’s book on the subject is the best

Agree.

ML/NJ

12 posted on 07/02/2018 8:55:16 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Big Red Badger

Many still refuse to speculate about the very notion of who was responsible for the assassination (other than LHO) but the finger is squarely pointed in the right direction...

Who is the only organization in the world that had the means to not only commit an organized murder, but also manipulate so many government agents, politicians and agencies to:
1.) effect such a murder
2.) to cover up such a murder, and
3.) create false perpetrators on an international level.

Our very own... See- Eye- Aye!


13 posted on 07/02/2018 8:57:53 AM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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After reviewing dozens of theories of how JFK met his maker... the one that seems to fit the actual evidence the best is that after the shot that hit Kennedy and Connally, the driver hit the brakes. The car carrying the secret service agents directly behind had to hit the brakes as well to avoid a collision. This caused an agent who was standing to lose his balance. The M16 style rifle being carried by agent Hickey dropped to approximately level and accidentally discharged blowing Kennedy’s brains out. This is detailed in the book by Bonar Menninger, Mortal Error.

This does not invalidate many of the “conspiracy” theories such as this one, but it fits the evidence extremely well and explains much of the bizarre behavior of the secret service in the days following... Weird nonsense such as Kennedy’s brain being taken from the hospital and then disappearing. Then there is the inconvenient fact that the entrance hole in Kennedy’s skull was smaller than the diameter of the full metal jacketed projectiles that came from Oswald’s rifle.

The supposed full metal jacket projectile that hit Kennedy’s head fragmented into tiny particles and turned his brain to mush. This is not consistent with the characteristics of a 6.5x52mm full metal jacket projectile. It is consistent with what happens when someone is shot at close range in the back of the head by the type of rifle that Agent Hockey was carrying on that fateful day.


14 posted on 07/02/2018 9:34:22 AM PDT by fireman15
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“It was always clear that Lyndon Johnson had the most to gain from President Kennedy’s assassination.”

IF you look at it as a plain murder investigation(forget JFK was the President) it is obvious the LBJ had the motive.

If you recall a few years back the History Channel did a series of documentaries about potential theories/suspects on who killed JFK. One episode blamed LBJ. People went nuts. I thought that flack is always heaviest when you are over the target.


15 posted on 07/02/2018 9:34:42 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: fireman15

I have a typo... should say not consistent with the full metal jacketed projectile from a 6.5x52mm cartridge.


16 posted on 07/02/2018 9:39:56 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: fireman15

And Android changed Hickey to Hockey as well.


17 posted on 07/02/2018 9:41:31 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: fireman15

Yea, that’s a fun and simple story. But it doesn’t explain why Lee & his family were being ‘handled’ by the agency.

Here’s some more on Veciana’s role with the agency.

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/8680-antonio-veciana/?tab=comments#comment-83722


18 posted on 07/02/2018 9:48:24 AM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

I said in my post that this theory does not invalidate other conspiracy theories. It explains the sequence of events and fits the forensic and other evidence. The shot that Oswald took that went through Kennedy’s neck most likely would have killed him regardless of bumbling by the Secret Service.


19 posted on 07/02/2018 10:16:45 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Given Oswald’s history and the details surrounding his death I do not think that there are many who doubt that he had contact with unsavory characters connected to foreign and domestic intelligence agencies. At this point there is not much that would surprise anyone regarding this.


20 posted on 07/02/2018 10:28:16 AM PDT by fireman15
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