Posted on 06/29/2018 10:08:11 PM PDT by Hostage
On that "fundamental misunderstanding" angle, only a fraction of the 35,000 sealed filings are indictments. Yes, there is an uptick in the raw number of sealed filings, but for all we know many of these involve aspects of civil cases; and it is certain that many of the sealed matters involve juveniles.
Pretty good article on the mechanics at dailydot. I disagree with the author's "The central claim of the #QAnon conspiracy theory is ..." statement, for what that disagreement is worth.
If there are 160 million in US workforce, people change jobs 3x in their career, work 35 years, that means 13 million people resign each year.
35,000 is one day’s worth.
Think!!! You know more than you know!!
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The claim is that this represents “most of the yearly total”.
Speaking of red herrings. Like pretending every employee is the same as CEOs
Nice try though.
I think the point of the list is that these are CEOs and high profile people that have resigned for nefarious purposes. These are not ‘normal’ resignations.
If you don’t want to read the Q related stuff then don’t read it. But stop being a progressive-like tyrant ordering other people not to post their opinions and statements about Q. When you order other people not to talk and discuss subjects you do not like you sound very much like the progressives in the dem party now trying to limit our free speech rights. So its simple, don’t read what you’re not interested in, don’t try to limit what other hear can discuss.
So to everyone who pays attention to Q, please continue to post your thoughts and opinions about Q and the Q posts and Q proofs. Nobody should let tyrants of any stripe limit our free speech rights. Personally I’m going to continue to mention Q every chance I get not only because I find it interesting but also out of pure spite just to piss off the tyrants who hate freedom of speech.
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> “On that “fundamental misunderstanding” angle, only a fraction of the 35,000 sealed filings are indictments.”
This is a good area to expound on. There is a consensus if not hard findings that the sealed filings include search warrants and criminal charges.
https://i.redd.it/oz750ullr8211.jpg
Further, the past average number of sealed filings/indictments is in the ballpark of ~1000, not ~35,000.
It would be good to get better perspective and clarity on the nature of these sealed filings and whether the filings to indictments inferences or validations as well as the comparison to historical averages are overblown if not misstated. On the other hand, the statements could very well be accurate and if you disagree you should provide more info to explain.
All of them for nefarious reasons or purposes? Every name on the list?
I haven't studied the individual resignations, so don't have a basis for an independent opinion on that point.
The article I linked points out that resignations for nefarious reasons are not uncommon, and a certain number of those occur every year. I likewise (not having reviewed the facts around each individual resignation) have no basis to form an independent opinion of that assertion.
Or I could just take the easy way out and let people believe what they prefer to.
In this inquiry, getting to the "hard numbers" takes substantial grunt work (check records in each case individually) over an appropriate period of time. The breakout between "indictment" v. "not indictment" can't be known until the filing is unsealed.
I haven't done much independent research on the breakout, but I reject out of hand that 100% of sealed filings are indictments. This is based on experience watching a dozen or so cases closely (one being the Scooter Libby case), where a significant number of sealed filings are made during the course of the prosecution.
Think! You know more than you know you know! You know? Do your reasearch! Fight!
There are 19 million companies in the US. If only 1 out of 10 has someone with a title of CEO, that makes about 2 million CEO’s.
If 35,000 resign every day, then about 3,500 CEO’s resign every day. A list of 35,000 CEO’s who have resigned is 10 days worth. Heck, if only 1 in 300 companies has a CEO, that is only a normal years worth of resignations.
Again, bfd. Red Herring City. Fake news. Meaningless spreadsheet, but keeps the Qooks in a tizzy. And that’s the point of the Q LARP. False hope, goose chases, sows disunity when we should be speaking with a unified voice, melting the phones to get rid of Sessions.
And again, the silly tracking of sealed indictments does not subtract the ones that became unsealed.
Huber ain’t doing crap, either.
Trust Sessions-to keep screwing America!!!
But thanks for playing.
This is why the list is posted as a reference. The news links in the rightmost column provide context. My sampling seems to confirm that the nature of the resignations was in a backdrop of scandal, hence the inference that these resignations are not normal course of the mill.
Expand your thinking.
Bagster
Did you take any notes that could serve as corroboration of your conclusion? "Name / reason" sort of thing? I'm not going to read 20 articles, because I don't really care. I figure some will get out because the gravy train was going to get lean, time for getting out is good, and so on (meaning directly assignable to Trump policies), and expect an uptick of 10-20%, at the most, for that reason. The raw numbers seem to track a 5 or 10 year cycle - high to low number.
I couldn't prove my sense of what's going on, it's mostly based on intuition. But it would take more than a conclusory statement for me to accept that 80% of the names on the list left "for nefarious reasons" even if I give wide latitude on what constitutes nefarious reasons.
Lol i’m trying, i’m trying...
I do have a plan tho....might be beeber stuning.
Well, the import of the list is going to require some statistics. Right now I’m slammed to do all myself. Doesn’t require full up analysis of 35,000 cases. A representative sampling plan could require several hundred taken from a random sample. Will revisit in a week or so.
To get at its nature will require dividing labor, asking members to read through certain line item sections and deem scandalous or not, etc. Off the top, if a random sample of 300 would suffice, asking each willing member to read say 10 line items entails a project team of 30 members. For increased validity, a separate team could read the same sample with the two teams crosschecked to each other.
Hmm, let’s see if I can post by opening a new tab - looks as though I can.
Has anyone checked previous years’ lists of resignations, to make a comparison?
Also (if I have time but may not) it would interesting to check and see how many resignations occurred shortly after Trump’s Dec.21 2017 EO about freezing assets of anyone connected in any way, shape or form with human trafficking or corruption. We’ve read that Eric Schmidt of Google resigned that day or the day after.
The list in the OP has ZERO to do with the 35,000 sealed filings. The "confirmed resignations/retirements/deaths" tab has 3186 lines, Line 1 being headings. Some of the references would be a slog to dig through, e.g., the Select Medical Holdings resignation on line 540 is (supposedly) reported on a linked Form 8-K, and I'm not sure that report is even going to give a reason, more likely a simple announcement.
Searching the sealed filings requires getting into the federal court docket system. Not daunting, but not nearly as easy as the file in the OP makes researching resignations. Each court has many cases, and the docket for any given case could have hundreds of line items. Footnote 1 in the 09/21/2006 Memo and Opinion in the Libby case, for example ...
In connection with these hearings, the following papers have been submitted to the Court: (1) the Defendant's Consolidated CIPA S: 5 Notice ("Def.'s Notice") [Doc 127 (classified)]; (2) the defendant's Memorandum Concerning Use, Relevance, and Admissibility of Classified Documents and Information Listed in Defendant's Consolidated CIPA S: 5 Notice ("Def.'s Mem.") [Doc 128 (classified)]; (3) the Government's CIPA S: 6(b) Notice ("Gov't's Notice") [Doc 133 (sealed)]; (4) the Government's Memorandum in Opposition to Defendant's Arguments Regarding the Use, Relevance, and Admissibility of Classified Documents ("Gov't's Opp'n") [Doc 141 (sealed)]; and (5) the defendant's Reply Memorandum Concerning Use, Relevance, and Admissibility of Classified Documents and Information Listed in Defendant's Consolidated CIPA S: 5 Notice ("Def.'s Reply") [Doc 143 (classified)].
I'd be surprised if 20% of the 35,000 sealed filing are/were indictments, and of those, I would think most were unsealed within a month or less of being filed - sealing being done to facilitate arrest of defendant.
None of that precludes the existence of 20 sealed indictments, those being Obama, Hillary, Comey, etc. It doesn't take a big number of indictments to get a small number of defendants.
> “ it would interesting to check and see how many resignations occurred shortly after Trump’s Dec.21 2017 EO”
My understanding there was an enormous # following that EO, so many that it seemed to be a red flag in itself.
The first or one of the first was Schmidt at Google who stepped down from Alphabet which was Google’s new name. Now we find in the last 6 months he’s implicated in some North Korea shenanigans. That story is still developing.
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