[Cboldt]

Well, that was nice, but doesn't advance toward a reasoned conclusion to our disagreement.

What is the support for the contention that a person must have sworn an oath of allegiance to the US, that is, have it on formal record, in order to be charged with treason?

I've offered Tokyo Rose as a counter to that point, and now offer Axis Sally as an additional case where I see no evidence of affirming allegiance (taking an oath), yet the defendant was charged with and convicted of treason. You have not respnding to this aspect of my half-baked point of view.

I understand the point that some evidence is better than other evidence, meaning affirmation of allegiance certainly establishes owing allegiance.

My contention is that, as a matter of law, all US citizens owe allegiance to the US, whether or not they took an oath of allegiance. Establish citizenship (birth cert is evidence), and the duty (owing) of allegiance is established.

[bagster]

I am fascinated by this "Battle of Titans" between Hostage and Cboldt, two of the smartest people in FReeQtown.

I love, love, LOVE smart people.

This is better than cartoons.

Carry on, boys.

Bagster